All the Torquems

• First offroader was a Jeep Commander – let’s talk about the build and what happened to that car (flood in Ellicott City, killed it, iirc). 
• Now you offroad with a Mercedes G-wagon, known as “Gretchen” – let’s unpack that. 
• Where do you take your truck (regularly) for offroading? Where are some of the best places to Offroad? 
• What would you say is your biggest OOPS moment?
• What would you recommend to someone just starting out in Offroading?
• What are some essentials you “must have” for an offroading weekend.
• Is there a “good starter” offroader? Is there any to stay away from?
• Do you recommend any books, forums, websites for getting into the sport of Offroading? Any recommendations on parts or mods?
• Do you watch any of the offroading shows like Truck Night in America, Alaskan Offroad Warriors? Anything like that.

and much, much more!

Skip ahead if you must… Here’s the highlights from this episode you might be most interested in and their corresponding time stamps.

Crew Chief Brad: [00:00:00] We always have a blast chatting with our guests about all sorts of different topics, but sometimes we go off the rails and dig deeper into their automotive and motorsports pasts. As a bonus, let’s go behind the scenes with this pit stop mini sode for some extra content that didn’t quite fit in the main episode.

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Crew Chief Eric: All right. So, all right. So now what we’ll do is we’ll do this thing called a pit stop, where we get to know you a little bit better. We ask you some off the wall questions and maybe elaborate on some of the stories and whatever you want to talk about.

So you guys good on that?

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah.

Crew Chief Eric: All right.

Crew Chief Brad: I mean, we can, we can wax. No, no, this is good. This, this is actually a really,

Crew Chief Eric: this is a really technical episode. So I like this. So one of the questions I had, and then we’ll get to the real fun ones that Brad likes to ask, we’ve mentioned more than once. on the drive through, uh, which is our monthly recap episode about a gentleman in [00:01:00] California who has gotten his jeep stuck on a mountain biking trail.

So I don’t know if you had heard about this story and if you didn’t, Brad will elaborate, but I wanted to get your feedback on this particular jeeper.

David Andrews: Do we know this particular jeeper?

Crew Chief Eric: We do not, but we’ve talked about him on our news.

David Andrews: Which one of you two did it?

Dude, that’s a constant story, man. These guys go out on those, um, those hill trails and they just, Oh God, they just, just don’t.

Crew Chief Eric: So this, so this particular gentleman, Brad, do you want to explain in short how this worked?

Crew Chief Brad: Uh, this idiot went out and basically he took a bike trail instead of like a hiking trail bike trail.

Yeah. Obviously it’s not wide enough for even a side by side, let alone a Jeep Wrangler. And you know how those new Wrangler, like the JK owners get is like, Oh, I just got [00:02:00] myself a Jeep. I can go through anything. Watch this, you know, hold my beer kind of stuff. Yeah. Four wheel drive, bro. Yeah. Four, four wheel drive, bro.

And he got

Mountain Man Dan: all four tires are still touching the ground that when you high side the whole vehicle, it don’t work.

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah. So he said he’s on this bike trail and he gets, I don’t know if he started early in the morning when it was dark or whatever, but he gets to a point where it’s a cliff on either side and it’s about like four feet wide and his vehicle sitting at like that 35 40 degree angle fall off this cliff and it’s just, it’s just parked there.

Somebody spotted it. Eventually he got like a, a local jeepers club, uh, with the help of a helicopter went out and they helped pull the vehicle back. I don’t know how the helicopter was involved other than spy photos, but. Uh, the Jeep has being recovered, but, but yeah. What, what would you say to lift

Mountain Man Dan: it up and carry it?

Yeah,

David Andrews: maybe. Well, that’s what I was about to say. If you get, if you getting into the game of getting a helicopter to [00:03:00] recover you, dude, can you imagine what the bill will be? That’s Operation Dumbo. Drop territory right there. Mobo drop,

Crew Chief Brad: operation ass drop.

David Andrews: Yeah, that’s, that’s exactly what I was about to say.

Operation Dummy. Oh. See these guys. who do this stuff, you can’t tell them nothing. You try to, Hey man, it’s probably not a good idea. No, no, I’d be all right. It’ll be all right. I got, I got 500 pound feet of Torquem’s. All right. It’s like Hearst

Crew Chief Brad: purrs.

David Andrews: Yeah. I got Hearst purrs. All right, bro. You go ahead and do that.

Crew Chief Eric: So icing on this particular cupcake. Is that some brilliant individual and I’m not using sarcasm here at Ford offered to go pull him out with a new Bronco?

David Andrews: Yeah, how did that go?

Crew Chief Eric: Well, he declined the offer. All right.

David Andrews: Yeah, I bet he did.

Crew Chief Eric: But can you

David Andrews: imagine? The ball busting will never stop.[00:04:00]

Crew Chief Eric: So that led me into my next question. What do you think about the new Bronco?

David Andrews: I love it. Eh, I feel so dirty for saying it because I think they kind of, they missed a mark with me with going with a IFS on that thing. That thing is literally the size of a F-150 and it’s an off-road vehicle, and y’all deemed it necessary to put a IFS on there.

Now look, I know an IFS. can be worked with and can be a decent platform, but something of that caliber should have came with a straight axle. And I can, I see it already. Pete, they’re going to rip that IFS right the hell out of there.

Crew Chief Eric: So would you say that’s the biggest disappointment or the

David Andrews: fact that it’s not coming with a V8?

No, I thought it was coming with a V eight negative ghost runners. Why did I read that? There was a V eight model. It’s only an eco

Mountain Man Dan: boost that that V eight. That V eight will be when everybody LS swaps it and puts that solid axle under it.

David Andrews: Yeah, [00:05:00] exactly. Exactly.

Crew Chief Brad: It takes a Chevy. It takes a Chevy to make a Ford.

Good.

David Andrews: Ooh. Ooh. Shots fired.

Crew Chief Eric: That’s fight words. .

David Andrews: Some would say that about a Jeep because, uh, I’ve seen a lot of Ls, Jeeps. Running around. I mean, the LS is just a great motor. It can either be in a sports car, you can truck it, or you can buggy it. And it’s perfectly, it’s an all around, it’s an

Crew Chief Eric: all around engine.

Yeah. Just one of the greatest motors

David Andrews: in history.

Crew Chief Eric: It is the only thing Chevy got right, but we’ll leave that where it stands.

David Andrews: Yeah. Get your ass down. Sorry. The cat is trying to jump up on you. I thought you were

Crew Chief Eric: talking about me and Daniel. I thought you were talking to Daniel.

David Andrews: Sorry.

Crew Chief Brad: They got the square body right.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, whatever,

Crew Chief Brad: whatever.

David Andrews: But back to the Bronco, I think that’s kind of where who asked me that Brad about the technology versus utility. Again, I think Ford struggled. [00:06:00] I’m pretty sure the research and development went in there and they were like, Oh, what can we do with a straight axle? I’m sure somebody asked that question, but then a bean counter or some physicists was like, Why do we need to do a straight axle?

Independent is more controllable on the highway. It rides better on the highway and we can still get a little bit of off road utility out of it.

Mountain Man Dan: Well, do you think that was bean counter? You think that was focus group related for the fact they know it’s going to be a lot of like soccer moms? Yeah, I

David Andrews: think, I think I was wrong in saying bean counter because honestly, a straight axle would have been cheaper.

I

Crew Chief Brad: think you’re, you’re not too far off the mark with the bean counter. Cause I think the Bronco, I think the Bronco is actually built on the Ranger chassis, not the F one 50. And I think that the Ranger is a, uh, is an IFS. I don’t think the Ranger has a front and a side.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. But the new Rangers, the [00:07:00] size of the old F one 50.

So it’s huge either way.

David Andrews: Yeah. So I’ve seen a few of those things running around. I can’t believe how expensive that truck. I drove,

Crew Chief Eric: I drove one when they debuted, we were down in Texas and we got an invite to go test drive one. I wrote an article about it. And I was, it was kind of like the Bronco where it’s like, why does this have a four cylinder?

Like put a V6 EcoBoost in it. I mean, that’s the unfortunate

David Andrews: trend because V10s are pretty much gone. V12s are pretty much gone in certain sports cars. Now V8s are next because ice

Crew Chief Eric: ice motors in general are out the door. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah

David Andrews: Pretty much. Yeah, I think Ford sees that it’s unfortunate But we’re gonna have silent cars here within the next 10 years

Crew Chief Brad: It’s like so speaking of silent cars.

Have you put in your order yet for the new Hummer?

David Andrews: Ooh, now that’s my friend. I’m sorry. I like that. [00:08:00] I like it. So have you seen the new Hummer EV commercial?

Crew Chief Eric: Yes. We were talking about

David Andrews: it crab walks. There are guys literally doing that now. They can make their, their buggy crab walk and, you know, counter turn to like, jump it around a boulder.

It’s like, it’s crazy. It’s crazy. Uh, no.

Crew Chief Eric: So, so, so that begs the other question. Well, if he ain’t going with a Hummer, you’re going to get the lyric then the Cadillac, because that’s basically the same thing.

David Andrews: First off, I will never buy another GM vehicle ever again in my life. All because of the GTO, because Pontiac did not stand by that car whatsoever.

Cause it

Crew Chief Brad: wasn’t a Pontiac. It was a Holden.

David Andrews: Unfortunately, they got rid of the best thing they had in their lineup. That and the, uh, G8. Which was the HSV. I still don’t understand why GM shut down. Holden

Mountain Man Dan: made no sense. That was [00:09:00] definitely where the bean counters came in.

David Andrews: Oh, come on. Hold on. I’ll call her back.

Sorry about that guys.

Crew Chief Eric: No worries.

David Andrews: GM’s dead to me, even though that new Corvette. Is interesting. I don’t know what that, how I feel about the new Corvette. You don’t fit in if you’re

Crew Chief Brad: six three and I’m six four, we don’t fit.

David Andrews: Yeah, don’t even worry about it. Oh dude, you should have seen me get into my buddy’s VR one.

Oh, that was a show. . .

Crew Chief Eric: I think getting out would’ve been even better. Dude,

David Andrews: I’m up here. Like I got like half the parking lot cracking up. Oh, I got in there. I was like, oh, oh, lemme turn around. I gotta get in ass first. And then I bust my ear hitting the, uh, that pillar didn’t know I was bleeding. So I’m bleeding in my, my buddy’s a hundred thousand dollars ER one.

And then when I shut the door, dude, I was like, think small, he’s six, four. But fortunately on the driver’s side, they [00:10:00] were nice enough to give more space to the driver. But me, I was done, dude. My leg was up against the door. I was smushed and then I can tell he doesn’t know how to drive properly because he’s stabbing the gas in mid turn and I’m like, Oh God, we about to go into this thing, but first, but anyway.

Crew Chief Eric: So as soon as we’re talking about new vehicles, what do you think about the Wagoneer? Being a Jeep guy. I don’t like it. Really?

David Andrews: The front end looks like a lit up chandelier. Like if I want a chandelier, I’ll go put one in my house. I don’t need my car looking like a rolling chandelier. I ain’t

Crew Chief Eric: got nothing.

I mean, I can’t fault that logic. I mean, it just makes sense.

Crew Chief Brad: Well, I was going to say his, uh, his Mercedes doesn’t have the lighted three pointed star on the front. And you don’t have that option?

Crew Chief Eric: That is the tackiest Mercedes thing in the world. No, because

David Andrews: mine is back when. They used to make where men were when Yeah.

back when men were men. . Well, yeah. Back when we were men. . [00:11:00]

Crew Chief Eric: So let me ask you this, you brought up a story about driving a JL off road. Do you want tell that one?

David Andrews: Uh, no. I didn’t drive it off road. Oh, okay. Why did, oh, my S eight had to be put in a shop. And I don’t remember why I do remember why this is going to be a good conversation, but anyways, they didn’t have any loaners.

So they sent me to enterprise and they gave me a yellow jail. So big ass black dude, driving a yellow jail.

But anyways, I was shockingly surprised. At how sturdy that thing is because there were things about the JK that annoyed man. I’m like, why did they do that? Why does this feel like this? And the JK, you know, wanted to drift and stuff like that. But the, the JL is quiet. You don’t hear a whole bunch of buffeting.

Anymore in the, in the, uh, roof, it’s just a well put together vehicle. And then I started looking up under there [00:12:00] and their control arms are like, they will be upgrades for the JK. That’s how beefy they are.

Crew Chief Eric: So what I’m hearing is this is how it translated into my brain. Fiat got something, right? Is that, is that

Crew Chief Brad: what I heard?

Yeah. If you want a really good American car by as much as I

David Andrews: hate to admit it. Look, Fiat controls Chrysler. I get it.

Crew Chief Eric: It’s the best thing to ever happen to Chrysler. Yeah, I think

David Andrews: so. Because Hellcat. You can see where they’re engineered. Huh?

Crew Chief Eric: He said because Hellcat.

David Andrews: Because Hellcat, yeah. And what’s the new truck?

The Raptor Beater. Rx the

Crew Chief Brad: Power

David Andrews: Wagon.

Crew Chief Brad: It’s like the, it’s like the, the RX or

David Andrews: something. R tx. That thing has 700 horsepower. What? For, why? Because this news. Who cares,

Crew Chief Eric: bro?

David Andrews: Oh, I was like, that is

Crew Chief Eric: the, I’ll tell you, I, I said this on another episode. When you [00:13:00] walk into the Chrysler factory, there’s a sign that says, we don’t give a shit.

Send. Does it really? I mean, seriously. They don’t care. .

David Andrews: Yeah. So I looked at, I looked at the Hill Catt. I started gooning over it a couple of years ago. I’m like the white one with the black, black on white. I was like, man, look at that. I ended up getting a charger as a loaner because my commander was in the shop.

And I was actually impressed at how well the Dodge chargers mannerisms are. Especially at high speeds. Like I’m up here doing 90 and it feels like I’m doing 55. I’m telling people to move faster,

Crew Chief Eric: especially as Brad would say, for being a 400 year old Mercedes.

David Andrews: Have you looked at this suspension? There is nothing American about that suspension on it.

No, not at all. I’ve never seen an American car come with what are the three fricking control arms and.

Crew Chief Eric: Oh yeah. The modular wishbone. Yeah. [00:14:00]

David Andrews: I told the dealer, I was like, you know what, I want to go look at that Hellcat over there. And then the closer I got to it, my eyes, you know, was analyzing everything.

I’m like, does that really say 265. 30? And this thing’s got 700 horsepower. Dude, I’m gonna be ice skating all over the damn place in this thing. And then, but it’s Pirelli PZ Rose. I don’t care if it’s Jesus grip, you don’t put that kind of tire on a 700 horsepower. Are you kidding me? This is a joke, right?

And then I’m like, I’m looking at the sticker.

Crew Chief Brad: Them off roaders got that Jesus grip.

David Andrews: Yeah. Yeah. Jesus grip. I’m looking at the sticker. It says 88. 5. And I’m like, okay, well, let me sit in it. And then I’m, I’m feeling the material and I’m like, dude, y’all want 80, 000 for a souped up police car [00:15:00] is for wrong.

It’s wrong. How y’all how this interior is. And he was like, yeah, but, but the, but the screen, damn the screen, look at this material. Like I’m feeling all around and I’m like, nah, this ain’t what I want. So, I mean, it’s a, it’s a cool car, but yeah, I’m, I’m too hoity-toity now that I’m used to like SA interior d bougie, because that’s like my benchmark.

Crew Chief Eric: basic now that’s what, that’s what it’s all about. Which actually leads in, leads into one of Brad’s Great question. So we’ll do it this way. We do in the garage, we do the million dollar Man. Which one do you wanna do, Brad?

Crew Chief Brad: Uh, well, we’re gonna do ’em both, so,

Crew Chief Eric: all right. This is the million dollar man question.

If you had all the money in the world, what would you buy? A house. No, a car. It has to be a car. Oh, oh. Vehicle. Vehicle.

Crew Chief Brad: A houseboat.

David Andrews: Oh, house and boat. Okay. Uh, I was like houseboat? Wait a minute. Ooh, for my [00:16:00] car? Hmm. All right, so for you don’t

Crew Chief Eric: you don’t have to be able to fit in it. This could just be the car that sits in your garage.

Yeah, because you also

Crew Chief Brad: bought lipo in a couple inches shorter.

David Andrews: Yeah, but if I’m if I’m worth that kind of money, because I can, I’ll customize that bad boy. Yeah. You’ll

Crew Chief Brad: pull a

David Andrews: shack. Yeah. Right. Head right out the top, but I’m happy as hell. So Ferrari just released a vehicle that I don’t know the name of it.

I haven’t been keeping up with Ferrari in a long time, but man, the angles on that bad boy, and she’s blue, red. With that orange or yellow, uh, Ferrari emblem, you know, which one I’m talking about. It’s got like the really swoopy headlights. Oh, is that the

Crew Chief Eric: 812 super fast?

David Andrews: I think that’s it. That’s got

Crew Chief Eric: the two round lights in the back, like a Ford GT.

Yeah. The 812 super fast.

David Andrews: Oh my [00:17:00] gosh. That thing is gorgeous. Yeah. I would get that for my truck.

Crew Chief Eric: We’re got right into the three car garage now.

David Andrews: Yeah. My truck would be that Chevy. No, the GMC. Hold on guys. Cause I think I plugged up the wrong charger. My phone. There we go.

Crew Chief Brad: Well, you said no more GM.

David Andrews: No, I I’ll, I’ll make an excuse for this one.

It’s that giant is looks like a Tonka truck. It’s the giant GMC

Mountain Man Dan: Kodiak.

David Andrews: Yeah, I’m just, I’m taking up four fricking parking spaces. Asshole. But you can’t tell me shit. So you say you wouldn’t do the six wheel G wagon. You wouldn’t do the six wheel G Wagon pickup. Oh, I got the six wheel G wagon pickup. I saw it was so cute.

Hold on. Hold on. That

Crew Chief Eric: was some trick photography right there, man. I [00:18:00] don’t know

David Andrews: where it is. It must still be in my car. Dude, this thing comes with a front locker, center locker. And the two axles lock, like it can crawl

Crew Chief Eric: on an RC. Really?

David Andrews: Yeah. And that’s bonkers, man. It’s got a high gear and a low gear best 1200 bucks I’ve ever spent.

Crew Chief Eric: Dang.

David Andrews: Yeah. So the million dollar

Crew Chief Eric: man question leads into our. this infamous three car garage. It’s usually on an island or a racetrack or wherever you want it to be. And there’s all these variables involved and people have gotten very creative with their answers. So you kind of gave us two already. Would there be a third vehicle in your three?

These are the three cars you would live with the rest of your life. The rest of my life, man. What kind

Crew Chief Brad: of question is that?

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, man. If you could only have three cars, that’s it. What would they be? Or three vehicles? I mean, you can go back. You can change up your answer. Because I led you into this. You can change them out now.

So, what would be in your three car garage?

David Andrews: If it had to be a permanent vehicle? I’m kind of [00:19:00] liking that lucid sky. Can I get my, can I get my updates with the lucid? How good your Wi Fi is? It has to stay in place as is, because if I can get my updates, I think I can survive. Like, did I get my candy cane OS on this thing?

Got that

Crew Chief Brad: Fruit Ninja.

Crew Chief Eric: I think Tanya, Tanya talked about the Lucid. That’s like the hot underdog EV right now because it’s a bunch of guys from Tesla. They got mad and went and started their own thing. Look man, I’ve

David Andrews: been drooling over the Lucid for about a year and a half now, two years, and they’re finally about to release it.

I think that’s going to be a game changer. I mean, Tesla’s already adjusting their prices. Yeah. You like, you like that

Crew Chief Eric: Cylon front end? I

David Andrews: think that’s super dope. I’m finding out that I have a love for any vehicle that has like animated headlights. I love how the Hummer has the charging lights that kind of like have the sequential charge on [00:20:00] it.

Kind of like, I’m charging my phone, I’m charging my Hummer and they both have the sequential charging.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. That’s cool. Do you think off roading is going to be the last motorsport to go EV?

David Andrews: I don’t think so. First off, I don’t know what Tesla was thinking with the cyber truck, but I think the Hummer is going to be a good test bid and I think it’s going to be an honest shot at being a smart off roader.

Now, I’m not a big fan of super air suspensions because that’s what it has. Like. This thing is going to be able to raise the vehicle, uh, 10 inches or something like extract mode. What the hell is that? It will be able to fit 40 inch tires without an upgrade. That’s big to me. Oh yeah. What vehicle, you know, that can do that.

And then you are now effectively getting away from [00:21:00] the complexity of axles because it no longer has a center axle. It has traction motors. So it doesn’t need a locking mechanism that can fail on you to actually simulate lock. Like one motor can literally just walk the vehicle up the hill or whatever wheel has the best traction or they can lock them together without a physical lock.

Like I’m blown right now.

Mountain Man Dan: That all comes down to amperage or wattage to each electric motor or wheel.

David Andrews: So

Mountain Man Dan: also I think because the electric engines torque, I think off road it’s going to be great because climbing some of those, especially the rock crawling rides, you put the gearing down at low enough and it’s going to be able to pull mountains.

David Andrews: Well, they’re not even going to be geared from what I understand. It’s just a direct, I could be wrong. I need to do some research, but based on what I saw, I think the [00:22:00] rear motors are coupled, but the front motors are individual. I don’t know. I I’d have to do a little bit more research on that.

Mountain Man Dan: But as you know, in the off road community, somebody eventually wants to give it 10 years after they’re out.

They’re gonna find ways to put some sort of reduction in there and stuff like that. Oh, yeah, like do with doublers and things.

David Andrews: Oh, yeah, like a portal axle or something. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that’d be cool. So let’s flip back to something fun. Sexiest car of all time in your opinion. I’m gonna have to give it up to that.

What’s that car? That just did 331 miles an hour. Oh, yeah The two the two atara. What’s hara dude? They hit all the right angles on that bad boy Now, I don’t know if you saw my post on Facebook, but I said something hilarious. I was like, I would have, I would have shat myself at 268. I literally would have dropped a dookie right there in the

Crew Chief Eric: middle of the car.[00:23:00]

David Andrews: Dude, because like just watching how. The the line splitter start. It just became one line. I’m like, you realize how fast you’re going? Let just a gust of wind. Let somebody sneeze across the street. That car’s done. And he did 331 miles an hour. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. We don’t we. Oh, it’s

Crew Chief Brad: un, it’s un that unverified.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. There’s a whole bunch of drama around that too. So Bugatti is still leading out there. Guinness Book of World Records was out there. Yeah. But they said, they

Crew Chief Brad: say it was unverified. They had

Crew Chief Eric: to do it multiple times. And the GPS is that the use were inaccurate. And there’s a whole bunch of litany of stuff.

So, and then, and then there’s like, some people say it didn’t, it didn’t do 300. Some said it did three, 10, some just said it three or six. It didn’t do three.

David Andrews: Idiot. If you don’t think that car didn’t hit 300, that man went back to the future [00:24:00] right there before our eyes. And we’re up here questioning. Oh, he probably didn’t do 300.

That man went to berserk mode. When you, the lines in the road become a solid line, you’re going fast. So flipping the coin, ugliest car. Pontiac Aztec.

Crew Chief Eric: Oh, that’s funny. It’s such an in jerk reaction, man.

David Andrews: That thing, that and its twin, the Buick rendezvous. Oh, what were they thinking with that? But have you

Mountain Man Dan: seen the off road version of the Aztec?

Well, there was

David Andrews: an off road version of the Aztec.

Mountain Man Dan: Yes. They’re okay. So like,

David Andrews: it had Ripley bottle paneling does not make it an off road vehicle.

Mountain Man Dan: I actually think that was on the American top year that I think Rutledge showed up with it and he put like some 30 ones on it that were knobby. And surprisingly, it made it look better,

Crew Chief Eric: but it’s still from Hill drops didn’t help it at all.[00:25:00]

David Andrews: Um, that just goes to show somebody will buy something.

Crew Chief Eric: All right. Let me, let me ask you one more. All right. If you could have a beer with Clarkson Hammond or may, which one would it be?

David Andrews: Yeah, I don’t know if I could take Jeremy Clarkson before I have to punch him in the eye. You wouldn’t be the first. But he also makes me laugh, so I guess, what beer?

Crew Chief Eric: I like how that’s, that’s the important, which beer are we talking about?

David Andrews: You gotta have a scotch, which you have to make. It would have to be a pale ale for me, but I don’t drink beer anymore. The important part. Yeah, I don’t know which, it would have to be some kind of pale ale, like I can, I can drink that, and it’s strong enough for me to like ignore Jeremy’s flaws.

Crew Chief Eric: Nice, nice, I like that. That’s a good answer, that’s a good answer. But no, you know, it’s, it’s always a good time when we, when we get together, you [00:26:00] know, and it’s funny because You’ve come and gone a couple of times from GTM and, and, you know, we’ve really changed over the years and, you know, we started as a bunch of track rats and all that kind of stuff.

And it wasn’t, wasn’t necessarily for everybody. Right. But I think over the years we’ve really kind of Broaden. We’ve taken the blinders off. We’ve broadened our horizons, especially with the definition of motorsport, but you know, you’d be amazed how many guys now are into bikes, how many off roaders we have, all the different, you know, motorsports disciplines people are bringing to the table and the stuff that we’ve been just going out of our way to do because, you know, you can only make, let’s Let’s use the joke.

You can only make a left turn for so long. Right. Uh, before you start to get bored and want to do something else. So, you know, it’s been an interesting couple of years, you know, and, and change and development and the personalities that come to the table. So, you know, if you ever want to come back for a third or fourth time, You always have a home, you know,

David Andrews: well, I mean, I look at it like this.

I never left. I just became [00:27:00] inactive and then y’all boot me.

Crew Chief Eric: Well, it’s just the way we do it every year. If you don’t renew in December that we just, we flush out and we flush, you know, flush the,

David Andrews: but I gotta tell you, man, I’ve been a fan of GTM over the years. I mean, I’ve peaked in. At first it was a little difficult for me to understand and navigate and try to figure out how the forms work.

I remember you talking about doing this kind of stuff way back when we used to work together. And then you finally made a website and y’all partnered up with all you guys doing this thing. And it’s cool to see that this is, uh, evolved. into what it is today. I swear to God, I’m actually going to come out and go to one of those meets.

I really congratulate what you guys are doing. I think y’all are doing something that I haven’t seen anybody do really where you guys are tying in all the disciplines and becoming like a central point. For, uh, [00:28:00] people to sign up for stuff or expect to show up somewhere at a show, provide people a platform to express themselves in their experience.

I think that’s really, really dope. And I do enjoy listening to the podcast. I’ve been peaking in on the podcast and stuff like that. I wish I was there for the big man in a little car. I know,

Crew Chief Eric: I know. You have to do

David Andrews: another

Crew Chief Eric: one. Yeah, it was a good episode, man. .

David Andrews: Yeah, that was, I enjoyed that one. We’re doing an off roaders edition was six 10 in the, in the pot.

6, 6, 8. . Six eight. I’m like, man, you just hating life. You can’t fit in anything.

Mountain Man Dan: And uh, you’re always welcome to come up to the mountain to try out the logging trails. I got up here.

David Andrews: Okay. All right. I’ll bring her up there. Always good talking to you, man.

Crew Chief Eric: A pleasure, my friend. A pleasure.[00:29:00]

Crew Chief Brad: If you like what you’ve heard and want to learn more about GTM, be sure to check us out on www. gtmotorsports. org. You can also find us on Instagram at grandtorymotorsports. Also, if you want to get involved or have suggestions for future shows, you can call or text us at 202 630 1770 or send us an email at crewchief at gtmotorsports.

org. We’d love to hear from you.

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Skip ahead if you must… Here’s the highlights from this episode you might be most interested in and their corresponding time stamps.

• 00:00 Introduction and Overview
• 00:26 Pit Stop: Getting to Know the Guest
• 00:54 The Jeep Stuck on a Mountain Biking Trail
• 04:02 Discussion on the New Bronco
• 07:49 The Hummer EV and Other New Vehicles
• 11:00 Driving Experiences and Vehicle Reviews
• 14:39 Evaluating the $80,000 Police Car
• 15:41 The Million Dollar Man Question
• 17:07 Dream Car Garage
• 20:09 The Future of Off-Roading with EVs
• 22:24 Sexiest and Ugliest Cars
• 25:06 A Beer with Clarkson, Hammond, or May?
• 25:56 GTM: Evolution and Community
• 29:02 Closing Remarks and How to Get Involved