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• There’s a long standing connection between cars and movies
• Best Car Chase scenes: Seven Ups, Vanishing Point, Cannonball Run, Smokey and the Bandit?
• WHAT SHOULD I BUY WATCH – Car Movies.
  • Mockumentaries / Biopics that came out: Framing DeLorean, Rush, Racing in the Rain, Ford v Ferrari
  • TV shows used to have a “featured car” – Magnum, Knight Rider, Dukes of Hazard, VIPER, etc. Which is the best?
  • Fast and the Furious, and how that changed Car Culture through Hollywood

and much, much more!

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to episode 50 of the Take Two. Wait, wait, wait. That’s not right. I’m Brian. I’m on Take Two Podcast. But this isn’t take two podcast. This is the break fix podcast. It is episode 50. I’m just hijacking the show today. What’s going on, Brian? That’s right, folks. We’re super excited to have Brian Stever from Take Two Podcast on Break Fix for our first ever crossover episode.

That’s right, folks. And if you haven’t guessed it yet, we’re going to talk about movies and cars. So hit pause, go grab some microwave popcorn, and then join us in welcoming Brian from Take Two. [00:01:00] But this is going to be fun. Until I’ve got. My favorite cars, my favorite cars from movie, favorite cars from TV, and then chase scenes.

So let’s kick it off. We talked to a lot of folks. We’ve done some other episodes in the past. Our listeners will know where we’ve reviewed some, you know, car specific films, and there has always been a long standing deep connection between cars and movies. And so I wonder, is it just the nature? Of the beast.

Is it our society here in America being, you know, car fanatics, Hollywood being in California with a huge car culture? Is that the draw or is there something more there, Brian? Oh, it’s almost like any type of movie. Part of it has to be like, what kind of car did they have? What kind of car were they driving?

What was the action scene? Anything that’s with action. There’s got to be some type of a car change to some type of cool car, some cool character on scene. What was he driving? Any type of topic that way you’re going to get around to the car. If you don’t lead off with And then for some characters. The car makes the man.

Some of our superheroes without their car, they wouldn’t even be a superhero. And we wouldn’t even have those cool movies. [00:02:00] So since we’re, since we went there and I, I, so I haven’t, I haven’t figured out, I think you’re more DC than Marvel, but you got, you got to play, you got to play neutral. It’s okay. I’m good with it.

Which superheroes got the best car? Not Batman. You got to take Batman off the table outside of Batman. Who’s got the best car? Probably Mr. Incredible from the Incredibles part two. That car is actually insane. Does that count as a superhero? You said he’s probably DC versus Marvel, but isn’t that Captain Marvel behind you?

It is Captain Marvel. Yeah, that’s my daughter’s poster. But yeah, Captain Marvel’s behind me. I am pretty down the road. I still read DC. The only Marvel I read still is Captain America. As far as reading wise, DC, but movie wise, I like them very independent because they’re both different style. Totally different.

Marvel has their style. DC has their style. And I think I enjoy them for both. Eric has a theory about their style. It said Marvel does much better on the big screen where DC because their characters take so long to develop and go through their arcs and they’re much more complex. [00:03:00] DC is better in a TV series.

Not wrong. It’s the same, it’s the same argument I make about Star Wars versus Star Trek. Star Wars movies are amazing. Star Wars TV shows, not the Mandalorian, right? Cause, you know, There haven’t been any real Star Wars TV shows, and it doesn’t make for good TV. Star Trek, awesome television if you’re a Trekkie.

Terrible movies, let’s face it. Okay, I, you can’t, you’re never going to argue with me that they’re good. They’re just, they’re okay. You know, we’re just buttoning up loose ends with those movies. Yeah, so the same is true of DC versus Marvel. I mean, I can rattle off. 1000 DC shows that are awesome and I’ll openly admit that Green Lantern is terrible as a movie.

It’s number one horrible DC movie of all time. I have issues on that too. So actually, since this is a crossover, let’s talk about movies. I’m going to talk about Green Lantern for a moment as if I was Tony on your show. So Green Lantern. Biggest problem with it. Let me start with number one. Ryan Reynolds was the perfect casting for the wrong Green Lantern.

He should have been Kyle Rayner, not Hal Jordan. Okay. Would have made way [00:04:00] more sense for his personality to tell that story and not yet another boring origin story. Because Hal Jordan’s origin story is not that exciting, right? Until way, way later, until his like third rebirth in the DC universe. Second, Sinestro would have been a way more interesting bad guy than that CGI dude that played Merlin in, um, no, not Merlin.

Yes, Scarlet Scarlet Clan. I’m not, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He, he played Merlin in the Kingsman. That guy, he was also in, uh, uh, Sherlock Holmes and a bunch of other movies. He always plays a bad guy. I can never remember his name stone or something. I think his last name is, but at any rate, that would have been way better as a, as a fight scene is everything to, to show that struggle.

And then. Thirdly, Parallax is a giant floating space diarrhea, right? I mean, oh my God, come on. I mean, it was, it was terrible. It was the worst DC movie of all time. But the very first thing in public he comes up with is a race car to drive around that party, which is horrible. Like a Hot Wheels track around this party.

Like, wait a second. [00:05:00] Second, that was pretty terrible. That was pretty terrible, but I still, I got to hand it to DC for their shows. I mean, there’s some awesome stuff out there when you talk about Gotham and even arrow in the early days, I won’t talk about legends of tomorrow. Cause that’s right up there with green Lantern.

And I’m having a hard time with that one. Let’s from what I understand, you need to just accept that it’s going to be a wild ride. And not try and make sense of it type show green arrow seasons. One through three. I was ready to put it up there. Like top five favorite show about a hundred percent. Yeah.

And then after that, it kind of, it was like, eh, kind of, you know, faltered off. And when he died in the cross over spoiler, I was like, all right, bye. You’re dead. Goodbye. I’m okay with it. That only took him 10 years to get that point. So, you know, whatever. So going back to superheroes with cool cars. Okay. I got it.

I got to tip my hat. To Marvel, Tony Stark has cool cars. Oh, fantastic cars. That had to become a thing that, that Jon Favreau was putting together. He’s like, he’s Tony Stark. He’s got to have incredible cars the entire way out. Especially since he was going to [00:06:00] be driving them most of the time. He was like, let me at least drive these on and off of set.

So you’re absolutely right. Cars and movies go hand in hand, cars and television shows go hand in hand together. And that’s what makes it a lot of fun to watch because not only do you wish you could be that character. You wish you could be driving that guy’s car. I mean, let’s talk about Batman 89, Michael Keaton.

I just showed my kids that movie for the first time a couple of weeks ago, and they saw the Batmobile, they flipped out. And I had that moment where I was like, that was me when I saw it for the first time when it debuted, right? And I mean, to your point, there’s cars that are just epic in movies. And that’s one of them for me, for sure.

Sure. Sure. I didn’t know you had kids. I mean, when that movie came out, I think is when you and I met this podcast is 30 plus years in the making. This is very true. Yeah. Back then I think our synopsis of the movie would have had smaller vocabulary words filled with, Oh dude, you see, that was cool. Oh my God, it was so cool.

The fire came out of the back of the car, the thousand fire that and the shield, the Batmobile, the biggest thing was [00:07:00] shield just hitting the end, the remote, like he had the original remote starter from back in the day. You guys are talking about the cars that are featured in the movies. One of my favorite pastimes is looking at cars in the background.

Oh my God, that guy’s driving a Mark three Jetta. What the hell’s going on? Well, that was pretty obvious in the fast and the furious. I think in what was it in the ring? She was driving a Jetta as they were going up country or whatever. Maybe it was a Volvo. I don’t know. It was, it was weird. I have that same sickness that he mentions there where I have pointed out cars in the background.

I will freeze frame. And my wife is like, are you serious? And then I’ll get up and take a picture, like send it to my sister, like, check this out. There’s this car in the background. And you know, everybody’s just shaking their head and I’ll never forget. First time I did it to her. We’re watching trains, planes and automobiles, right?

Classic film. And it’s within the opening five minutes. There’s that scene as they’re kind of going down the main boulevard there. And I’m like, Oh my God, that’s a first gen Chirac. Oh, my wife’s like, what are you talking [00:08:00] about? I’m like, pause. And I’m like, slow back up. And I’m like, look, it’s the rear quarter panel of a Scirocco.

And she’s like, you have a problem. And I’m like, yes, yes, I do. I’m out of my league on this podcast already. I can feel it. I just know it’s not a car. You guys have already picked out ones in the background with their license plates and bumper stickers. That’s okay. I’ll see if I can hang with you boys.

It’s all good. Well, you’re the movie buff here, right? So, I mean, this is, this is great. But like I said, there’s a huge crossover and you mentioned chase scenes. So let’s talk about that. What are some of your favorite car chase movies? You know, cause that always seems to be the thing that gets us as a kid.

Yeah, sure. It’s just them driving all around town. Of course, having other cars crash into each other because they’re weaving in and out of traffic. You always have to have that intersection scene where they’re flying towards the intersection. Other cars are crossing. It’s completely blind. You don’t know what’s going to happen.

And somehow magically they make it through. Um, I mean, some of the best out there, you know, more recently you have like baby driver came out. I know we’re not allowed to talk about baby driver due to a certain actor that’s in it, that’s not allowed in Hollywood anymore, Kevin Spacey. [00:09:00] But the opening scene.

When they match the songs, literally the beat of the song to the shifting of the gears and the sliding through the, you know, the highway and, and on ramps, off ramps, everything matches up with the sequence of the music too. It’s like, not only are we having these really cool car chases, which the car driving abilities by itself, they’re fine.

We’ve seen that before. It’s great. He can turn it around backwards and hit the emergency brake and all that. That’s great. Um, yeah. But the fact that they matched up the beats and the rhythms of the song perfectly in step with the car chase scene was fantastic. So top of my head, like that’s the first one I was like, Oh, I actually enjoyed that scene.

And you know, what’s funny you mentioned that is as our listeners are, you know, kind of following along with our catalog of episodes, we covered this in a previous episode where we talked about the crossover between music and automobiles and the driving experience and how that affects them. So if you haven’t caught that episode yet, go back and check it out, but you’re absolutely right.

The soundtrack. That music score going with the driving, it amplifies it that much more agreed. [00:10:00] Agreed. All right. Another one that comes to mind is the Italian jobs. So I have a, I have a soft spot for Michael Caine. I am, I’m reeling the day that somebody calls and says, you know, along with a lot of these actors that have just passed away recently that were, you know, big names, you know, with.

Jessica Warner and all these other types that recently passed it. I’m like, you know, I’m waiting for the shoe to fall on, on that one, to the Italian job, another classic car chasing movie, which does not hold true to the theory of sequels. The sequel was better than the original. I think. It’s funny you mentioned all these cars have the sales of any car been boosted more than the recent Italian job movie, like obviously people didn’t go running out, buying Batmobiles, but, um, there’s many Coopers I don’t remember seeing a mini Cooper and then that movie comes out and it was like, holy cow, everybody’s getting a mini Cooper everywhere.

And then the thing to do is to get the, the, the British paint job with the, you know, with a British flag on top of it. That was like a thing. I think maybe that was after all super two drove one, but either way, that might be as like the [00:11:00] highest, like boost in sales for any type of car. I think that was marketing genius by BMW.

Really? I’m sure they, they said, Oh, you’ve got this movie coming out. We’ve got this car coming out. Let’s launch them together. Yeah. Because I mean, who would have thought at that point to redo the Italian job now? Granted, I think the sequel to the sequel was the Brazilian job, but we’ll, we’ll leave that alone.

But are we still talking about movies? Yeah. Right. You know, going back again to music and cars and movies and how it all ties together. Yeah. Again, another Michael Kane film, which I recently rewatched, was Get Carter, and so he was the quote unquote the the good bad guy in that movie. He played the opposite role in the redo in the early two thousands where Sylvester Stallone played Jack Carter in that movie, and then Michael Kane played the Bad Guy and that movie.

Great soundtrack Stallone drives this Cadillac DeVille or STS or DTS, rather, you know, and there’s a car chasing between him and a Jag, which is actually really good. The movie’s full of action [00:12:00] and just another fantastic film where there’s, you gotta have that extra bit in there. Right. To bring it all together and to bring it home.

Uh, we’re talking about car chase scenes. Ronan. Beautiful one. Cause it’s one of my favorite cars. The, uh, what was it? S eight or a eight. I think it was an essay. I think I had one at the time when I first saw that movie and it was just like, Oh my God, this is the most amazing thing ever. And then that, uh, late eighties Mercedes Benz, it was chasing them down.

It was just amazing. Amazing scene. I mean, that was a good film in general. I think it’s, I think it took a lot of people by surprise. Well, I like the fact that I think historically excellent car chase scenes don’t always go hand in hand with great movies. No, I was, I was going to agree with you. First one that pops in my head on that one is dual one of Steven Spielberg’s first ever films and that was a big car chase movie itself is okay, but I was thinking the exact same thing.

And with Ronan. Sorry, back to your point, though. You don’t think Robert De Niro car chases like when I say, Hey, give me, give me your Bob De Niro [00:13:00] characters that he’s given all the time. It’s going to be a long time before you’re like, Oh yeah, he wasn’t that really bad ass car chase scene, wasn’t it? And so that’s why I think that’s an underrated pick.

Absolutely. And I mean, there’s some other ones out there too. I mean, you’ve got movies like vanishing point, which are all based around car chase scenes. Now, probably a lot of folks that are listening to this may have only seen the Jason Priestley version of vanishing point and not the one. From 1971, the original, so it’s a kind of a different experience.

Although I will say the redo was a, was a good homage to the original, but then you have lesser known movies. Like, let’s say like the seven ups, which came about the same time. And most people again, don’t probably know anything about that movie. It is listed still as one of the longest car chases in any.

Car movie period outside of something like Gone in 60 Seconds where the entire movie is a car chasing, you know, things like that. Sure. So there’s a lot of neat stuff out there like that. And then obviously you get movies like Bullet, you know, with Steve McQueen, I mean, he was also a huge petrolhead. A lot of his movies revolved around [00:14:00] cars and, and car chases and things like that.

So, but then that movie sucked though. Bullet was not, it was not that good in every reality. It was, it was not that good. , I thought you were gonna say it was not that bad, but No, no, no. It was not that good. I don’t know. I have, I have a fondness for it, but it’s not at the top of my list. If I have to pick a McQueen movie, I’m going to go with Lamont’s, but then not a lot of people can tolerate that movie because it has literally five minutes of dialogue in a three hour movie.

It is painful to watch unless you’re a huge fan of the early seventies, like Lamont’s racing or whatever. You know, which will probably compare and contrast to rush and some other movies as, as we continue the conversation. Yeah. Gone in 60 is actually one of my favorite, the, the, the Nick Cage gone to 60, to be honest with you.

It just, if he didn’t jump off that 18 wheeler as our ramp, it to me that like tarnishes everything. Maybe it’s because of the CGI, which they were like, redo it now with like current CGI. Once that Shelby. Which is just an absolutely stunning car. In my opinion, that, that GT 500, um, what is it? 67, right? I think [00:15:00] once the thing like lifts off and then it’s just kind of like CGI over the other cars, like, Oh God.

And then it lands and that’s all beat up. And then you cry. Once he finally pulls the thing into the garage, like, Oh, look how much. Damage you just that beautiful car, but, but that whole movie is full of chasing. I agree. It’s a fun movie. Yeah. And I think, you know, it’s talking about fun movies. I think that’s where you get into a lot of the Burt Reynolds films, right?

He did a lot of his career was centered around him being a car guy. When you look at cannonball run, you look at smoky and the bandit. A lot of those films, there was him, it was Burt. And the car, you know, up until when he passed, but not, but a couple of years ago, they were still, there were companies out there producing new we’ll call them smoky and the bandit trans ends or screaming chickens or whatever, you know, based on the Camaro and Bert was signing them, you know, these are like legit builds and whatnot.

So it’s kind of cool. Like that was part of. Also as a person, like you said, the car and the man and all that, as, as we kind of open the conversation up here. So can you think of any other, maybe famous Hollywood people [00:16:00] that would be really coupled with, with cars like that as part of their, let’s say their resume?

Uh, so to answer your question, I mean, the first one that pops on has been diesel, right? Vin diesel with fast and furious franchise. They’re they go part and parcel, even though the rock and Statham have almost stolen it away from him. I’m wait, you know, later on this year, we get fast past nine. I’m so excited for that.

Yeah, it’s fast, not right fast. 15 fast. Signy fine. Yeah. Very good. Um, so I’m intrigued to see how, you know, where the franchise goes back without state of my rock. Like, bring it back to your original roots, you know, and that for me ranks, so that very, that inaugural movie, inaugural movie, that first film, that final scene, because.

I’ve always been more of an American muscle car guy and that entire movie, not so much until that final scene when he goes and then he gets the American muscle. And then that thing roars out of that garage coming out and it’s like, yes, here we go. And then, so that movie ended so powerfully. And then they made 18 more films after that, but either way and [00:17:00] Tokyo Drift, which we will talk about.

So, Brian, do you have like a favorite movie car, something that really sticks out at you, maybe super iconic or something? You know, we talked about at the beginning, you know, Batman and stuff like that, but is there, you know, we didn’t really expand upon that. Is there something else on your list? A few that I thought that I already mentioned Eleanor from gone in 60 seconds.

The first time I saw that film. I fell madly in love with that car. I mean, just the coloring, the silver, the streaking. I was like, Oh, I’m a big fan. I grew up a Corvette guy. And then I saw that and I was like, Oh, okay. I kind of like Mustangs now. That’s a glorious, the Batmobile 89, obviously brilliant. Uh, you know, your 1981 DeLorean that was used in back to the future.

I was wondering if you were going to say that, yeah, who didn’t want to own that. But to be honest, I only want the DeLorean. If it has a flux capacitor, just the regular DeLorean by itself. It might be Mr. No, Mr. No, Mr. Fusion. What’s wrong? You have to have Mr. Fusion. So that way he can give you the fuel to get you there.

But I thought the other thing, you know, chicks dig it. The shagging wagon. Get that, that dumb and dumber van. Get a [00:18:00] shaggy dog, right? You sell PD to the blind kid. So, I mean, just think if you drove around town in a dog, it would be pretty wild. For me, I’d have to say the, uh, the pussy wagon from Kill Bill.

Oh my God. It’s a Chevy. It’s a Chevy Silverado. That or the, uh, the 928 from Scarface. He walks into the dealership all coked up and buys a brown 928. They reused that in Weird Science later, so it’s the same brown 928. Really? Is there only 928 left in existence? Ah, who knows, man. There were not many of those to begin with.

But no, I give you points for that. I give you points for that. I mean, you know, and it’s funny because there are memorable, you know, Hollywood cars like that. I think they’re, you know, those custom made cars, the shagging wagon, the Munster mobile, right? The Adams family had their thing, but I’m going to, I’m going to talk about something you guys probably don’t realize, but you know, it’s not just cars, but motorcycles and movies.

And someone who’s [00:19:00] in a lot of movies with motorcycles, you probably don’t realize is Lawrence Fishburne. He was in fled where they had the Ducatis. He was in biker boys with the Hayabusa in the matrix. They had the green Ducati. He didn’t write it in the matrix, but he wrote in, in both fled and biker boys.

Classic movies. All true. All true. Yeah. Brad, you know, one of them for me and, you know, talking about music is Tron, the Tron soundtrack and the light cycles. I know I bring Tron up a lot. I’m a Tron geek. I love that movie. I love the original one. I love the new one. Whatever. The pairing of those two, that light cycle and that Daft Punk album.

I mean, that. I haven’t seen anything like that yet. Well, for me, it’s the Batmobile Tumbler that doubles as a motorcycle. That was pretty cool. Actually. I hated those Batmobiles. They were way too military. That’s what I like about them. Yeah. At Tumblr, they had six stunt riders try and ride it. And the only one that could do it was actually their instructor, who was not [00:20:00] necessarily in shape to be Batman, but they got a suit to fit him.

And he’s the only one that was able to handle that for those scenes. So if you look closely, you can see that he weighs a little more than Christian Bale. We’ll just say chunky Batman, which, you know, we’re talking about Batman again. Here we go. We’re here. If you remember Batman 89, you remember that scene where he’s chasing the Joker.

In those, uh, old Plymouths, the purple and green Plymouths that they were driving around. There’s that one scene where he’s got to make that really tight corner and uses the grappling hook to basically slingshot the car around. I actually read about that years and years later that that Batmobile was apparently built on some sort of like Cadillac chassis.

So it’s quite long. And because of the way it’s structured, if you look at it, it’s a huge wedge, like not just physically aerodynamically, but the footprint. The rear end is really, really wide in the front, super narrow. So the turning radius is like really awkward because the car is not balanced because it needs to have that particular [00:21:00] stance and that, that presence, they said to make that turn, because it was a 90 degree turn, they legitimately had to use.

That grappling hook system to get it to come around the corner because it couldn’t make the turn. Otherwise they had to do it at like two miles an hour. So I thought that was actually kind of cool that sometimes, you know, the deficiency begets that coolness in the film, right? Wow. Very cool. If we’re thinking motorcycles, I would throw Tom Cruise onto that.

Uh, I would throw Schwarzenegger onto that like, as you can always just picture Schwarzenegger on the bike, especially Terminator two. Yeah. And then you got to throw Peter Fonda and, uh, he’s grown way old school tonight. I’m loving every bit of this. I, I, I like the two wheels. I love four wheels, but I, I, I got a soft spot for two wheels.

Okay. Nice. Very cool. Really? Tom Cruise. I mean, look at all the top gun where he’s sitting there riding and then all of a sudden he sees the jet take off. He’s like, yeah. Yeah. But I [00:22:00] mean, uh, I mean, all those mission impossibles. He’s on almost 900. Yeah. Is he really on a motorcycle or is he green screen? I mean, come on.

He’s a rider. He does all his own stunts. Brad’s on it. He does all his own stuff. Studio hates him for it, but he won’t sign a contract unless he could do his own stunts and it is all his own riding. That’s good stuff. I mean, Statham does his own stunts too. And I mean, mission impossible 97 or the transporter, I mean, you know, come on, but talk about an underrated film.

The original transporter didn’t become popular until way later. Like it had been out for a while before it really, you know, to use a pun got traction. And I saw that movie and I thought it was absolutely fantastic, very underrated originally, but then, you know, they pumped it full of steroids and it’s become what it’s become today.

But I’m kind of anxious to see if maybe another one will come out. Hopefully not a Hobbes and Shaw 2, but you know what? I’ll watch it anyway. There will end up being nine transporters. Well, then they already changed guys and they did a show and it’s, [00:23:00] it’s, it’s become ludicrous. It’s probably on, no offense.

It’s probably on the CW somewhere with the rest of Riverdale and Stargirl and everything else. How many things are they transporting anyway? I don’t know, but it is, you know, trafficking in persons though, at the end of the day. So we’re just going to leave that where it is. You did have a disclaimer. If you did have some showing, you could just connect all of them and attach them to a helicopter.

They’ll just fly like a tank and three trucks and put that all together. Like they did. So it becomes, what was that cartoon show? When we were kids, Mask, M A S K. Right where they had the car and the helicopter and the bike. Remember that? Like lesser known, but they’re wearing the Wayback Machine now, aren’t we?

We should wind that thing up. In the before times. You know, movies, you know, you got to get from point A to point B, right? So having the flashy car is important. We mentioned it kind of in the, in the pregame for the episode. You know, one of the things that inspired this episode was actually listening to your show and thinking back over all All of the John Hughes movies and how he was really like a closet sports car fan.

And if you pay [00:24:00] attention to 16 candles and weird science and Ferris Bueller, you’ve got Ferraris, you’ve got Porsches, you’ve got the Fiera, which I know Brad hates. We talked about that on many episodes. There’s some sort of sports car, but it’s not the prominent figure, but it’s always there. And there’s always an obligatory shot.

Like even in weird science, it’s like, Why are we looking at the front of the house other than to look at the Ferrari and the Porsche parked out front, or even the mall scene in weird sites where they’re kind of showing off and he’s trying to drive the clutch, you know, all that kind of thing. So I found that kind of interesting because it wasn’t really forward.

Like it wasn’t Ferris Bueller where the car was kind of the crux of the situation where it was like, Oh my God, my dad’s going to kill me. You know, we’ve got to reverse the miles and you know, all those famous one liners. That was a Ferrari 250 California. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And in that one, the car is a character in its own.

You’re right. But for all, almost every single one of his films, you’re right. There is a car of some nature that they throw in there. So he definitely with a lot of his car, you know, he was a [00:25:00] big Beatles guy and a big car guy at the same time, but he was like low key. You would find him. He was like slipping some Beatles and then it would also slip in some cars into each one.

So that’s pretty astute of you, Eric, to pick up on that. Thank you. Thank you. It also helps that I watch those movies like 10 times a year, you know, but at any rate stuck in the past, but you know, movies is one thing, but TV, I think TV really. Glommed on for a long time to the car being like you said, the car and the man or the, or the woman in a lot, in some cases to like some shows that we’ll talk about here in a minute.

But I think TV made cars a keystone of the episode, uh, rather of the show, because what else were you going to do? With not have some sort of action scene, like you said, a car chase or moving from point A to point B, you’d end up with like general hospital. It’s like a bottle episode. Every episode, you’d be in the same place without some sort of movement.

So what do you think, you know, top TV shows with cars or top car from a TV show for you? It’s crazy. There have been people I talked [00:26:00] to that I’ll tell them that the Best actor on Baywatch used to be on a car show and I’ll tell him when I’m like, what? There was a person on that show. I thought it was just all about the car that talked.

No, there was a person that actually wrote inside said car and the voice of it was Mr. Feeny from Boy Meets World. Yeah. But Kit is, is got a rank very high. It’s just far as like people will know from. Television, like a car that could talk and had the, the, I think you guys correct me if I’m wrong. Didn’t they come out with the transients after that, that had the little light bar that would at least go back and forth as you were driving?

Not from the factory, right? Aftermarket option. You can add that. Oh, okay, cool. Which was borrowed from the Cylons on Battlestar Galactica. So if you look at it, it’s the same thing and the same sound effect on kit as it was on, on BSG. So There’s some trivia for you there too. David Hasselhoff, Kung Fury, right?

I got to bring that up again. If you haven’t seen it, people, you need to watch [00:27:00] this movie. Brian, tell me you’ve seen Kung Fury. I’ve seen everything Hasselhoff has done. Wait, all right. Let’s talk. Let’s talk about Code Fury. Come on. It’s a horribly great movie. It’s like, it’s just one of those that it’s so bad.

You love it. Every bit of it. You need to turn off your head, grab your popcorn, as you just said, unless you’re on keto like I am. So I can’t eat popcorn. But other than that, it’s a, it’s just one of those movies that’s so bad you have a good time watching it. And it is definitely one of those that nobody heard about until like years later.

Oh yeah. It’s like super cringy, but it’s really popular. And that music video. Search YouTube true survivor, David Hasselhoff. That is legit. It also goes back to our whole, the most iconic car in any music video is the Lamborghini Countach hands down. I mean, you can’t beat that car with a stick. It’s, it’s impossible.

But, uh, that, that, that movie has it all. It has it all. So if you want to tie Hasselhoff to cars, even more so, I remember watching an interview with him. He, you know, he was big in Germany, I believe as a musician, huge over there. And he [00:28:00] had a big, huge pay per view special in America. And this was supposed to be his big to do where all Americans are supposed to learn about them.

And like this, I’m going to go with pay per view type special. And he came in from like doing a show or something. It was like, Hey, how are our numbers? Is anybody watching anybody watching? And they’re like, Nobody’s watching, man. We’re so sorry. Thorough watching this white Ford Bronco getting chased down the LA freeway.

It was the same night that OJ was being chased. And so then nobody watched Hasselhoff because everybody was watching the Ford Bronco. And that kind of like killed his career in America for the most part as a musician. So I don’t know if you know, he came back a couple of years ago and he did a quote unquote kind of reality show with kit.

I don’t know if you saw this, it was all the history on Discovery channel and basically he’s going around and he’s like visiting other people doing all this stuff. Him and kit are on this adventure and it’s all about, you know, different types of motorsport, like planes, trains, racing, all this kind of thing.

And at one point he’s on track with a springs. [00:29:00] Where Ford versus Ferrari, those opening scenes where they’re running the Cobra for the first time and all that, that you saw in the movie. So he’s there and he’s re he’s racing quote unquote kit on the track against these other cars. And it’s kind of hilarious.

It’s kind of goofy. It’s very tongue in cheek, but worth watching. The name of it slips me right now, but I know it’s in the history vault. Uh, if you have access to that or have access to discovery plus, you can go pull it up and it’s on there. So pretty cool to check out. Another streaming app that I will have to add discovery plus got it.

I’ll throw kid out as my first one, Brad, yours. I’m just going to do this just for kicks, but I remember the episode and who’s the boss where Sam gets her license and starts to drive and Tony buys her this giant yellow Oldsmobile school bus, whatever the hell it is with the corner markers, spare tires, like you could see it.

I think it had a siren. I think it had like the Dixie horn. I mean, it was fricking [00:30:00] outlandish and absurd. And it was hilarious. That’s great. I remember that. That’s one of my most memorable. Who’s the boss episodes too. That’s the only thing I remember about that show. That and I had a crush on Melissa Milano because it’s true.

She had to have been, I mean, we were all the same age, our first ever crush and then she quickly got replaced by Kelly Kapowski, but that’s a whole nother episode. Saved by the bell. I don’t know. I was more, I was more of a, an Elizabeth Berkley fan, you know, the curly hair and all, but we’ll save that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Jesse Spano for the win. I was always a turtle girl. We should have gone to school together. We would have been great. We never would have stepped on each other’s toes. We did go to school together. Wait. And when we did go to school together, you’re right. Exactly. So I’m one of the points in the triangle here, folks.

I’m disappointed you didn’t go with chips though. I thought you were going to totally come out with chips. No, no, no, not this time. That’s for the next, that’s for the follow up. He’s going [00:31:00] to do the Eric Estrada hair though. He’s got to get it gilled and combed over. That’s that’s the sequel. I mean, there’s so many though, from especially even before when we were kids.

I mean, I was, I was even thinking about it before the show, even today, I was presented with something I had never seen before. I took a step back and I had to go watch this epic show from 1971 that I don’t think anybody’s heard of. It’s called The Persuaders and it’s hers. Syringe Ramore and Tony Curtis in this film, it’s kind of a quirky.

Backwards espionage film, like, you know, Roger Moore was already in the middle of being James Bond and all this kind of stuff. But I’m like, Tony Curtis, does this really work? And I actually happened to see it on Instagram. And what caught my attention was the opening with a Ferrari Dino and an Aston Martin DB8, I think it was, or something like that.

And I’m like, I got to see what this is all about. And then I found myself. One, two, three episodes later, still watching, you know, mixture of, of British humor and, and James Bond ness and espionage and whatnot. And I’m like, this is [00:32:00] from the seventies. Like, how did I never hear about this? So it was the cars that captivated me, that brought me into that show.

And so, you know, there’s other things like that, you know, and we’ll probably unpack that more as we go along. Beautiful. Looking forward to it. You’ve got the Dukes of Hazzard. You’ve got heart to heart, Falcon Crest, the Persuaders, the Saints, right? Going back to the black and white days, there’s so many shows that revolved around cars and iconic cars and cars that are probably now would have been forgotten had it not been for TV kind of glorifying and exemplifying what they are.

You can’t hear the title Breaking Bad without thinking about the Pontiac Aztec. It was not a car movie. Or a car TV show at all. But it’s an iconic character in itself, as Brian said earlier, in that TV show. Heisenberg! Oh, that’s terrible. The Aztec is a horrendous car. I was actually thinking like Green Hornet.

Both the show and the movie, because if I think, if I recall, you know, Green Hornet and Cato from back in the sixties, [00:33:00] that was the same Lincoln that they used on Entourage. Oh, it was a Lincoln Continental. Yeah. With the, you know, the double, the suicide doors and the whole nine yards. So another kind of epic car there.

I, I actually didn’t mind the Green Hornet redo movie. I don’t know about you. Is it Seth Rogen? Yes, it was. I thought that was pretty good. I thought it was fun. Well, I mean, see, that was before now the way we pick apart like superhero films now, you know, if he, I bet if they could redo it to like give it that more budget that they have now, you probably do it even stronger.

I didn’t mind it either, but you’re saying, and now it’s such a genre. I think for me and Brad knows where it’s going to go. It’s a tie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s, it’s really a tie and I brought this up on another episode, but my heart goes to Tom Selleck and Magna PI. I mean, God, that, that Ferrari is still gorgeous to this day.

And I, I know everybody that’s listening. That’s the every man Ferrari. That’s like the, you know, the Porsche 944 from 16 candles for the movie buffs out there. That’s [00:34:00] like the every man’s Porsche, right? The every man’s Ferrari is the three Oh eight. It was kind of bottom of the barrel economy, super sports car.

But it’s still something to behold and it brings back those memories and I tell you what the true story. I was in Honolulu for work and I had gone to dinner with some folks and I’m sitting out like over this overlook and kind of, you know, beach to one side. I happen to get the poor seating choice of being the side towards the city, but it made my night as I’m sitting there, you know, eating the moonfish and all this crazy stuff that you can get in Hawaii.

And I look out and I hear this distinct sound and no lie. There’s a dude drives by top off in a red Ferrari 308. And I was just like, Oh, this is awesome. Right? So that kind of made my day. They do exist in Hawaii. Maybe that was one of sales cars. I don’t know my runner up though. Is the Viper from the NBC show, which is now buried deep in the bowels of their vault called Viper, [00:35:00] which was kind of a redo of.

Knight Rider kind of coming full circle to your point, Brian. I’m a big fan of the Defender, which is the mode that it would change into. I think that’s super cool. But the Viper also has a sweet spot for me as well. And I think unfortunately that show was buried for so long. It was a good marketing technique for Chrysler to really showcase that car at that time when they were trying to rebrand themselves and reinvent themselves.

Right. Does he bring up Italian stuff every episode? Yes. Did you know Eric Battalion? Just making sure he said the word Ferrari, like 11 times so far today. So I’ll just, are you keeping count? Uh, there’s another, it’s like the people who count the F word in Scarface. So is it, wait, is this Eric’s new effort?

This could be his effort. It’s Ferrari, but you know, Eric brings up the Dodge Viper from the show of the Viper, but when Pontiac re released the GTO, when they brought it back out, There was a short mini series surrounding that car as well. And actually [00:36:00] somebody from Maryland was the star of that. Chris Carmack went to high school with one of our buddies, Andrew in Maryland.

Cool. There goes the star, you know, exactly. The only other one off the top of my head that I was thinking of was the, uh, I think it was a 79 country squire, the family truckster from national lampoon movies, which became a character in and of itself, at least in the first film. And what kind of car was the blonde girl driving that he was fantasizing over?

Is that a Tercel? I’m not sure. Oh my God. Brad, would you like to take the steal? What is this one? What movie? National land agents. Yeah. The Winnebago. You guys don’t remember that? Like the very first movie they’re in the family trucks or they’re going to Wally world, right? My guess is it’s a Ferrari. Yeah, it’s Magnum Spurs.

I just want to make him say it. I just want to make him say it. You guys are killing me. [00:37:00] Again, iconic car shows up in tons of movies and shows. But, uh, yeah, I mean, lots of, lots of iconic cars in television. And, you know, I think some of those shows probably wouldn’t have survived without it. I mean, what would Magnum be without the car and the car chase scenes or Dukes of Hazard for that matter, you know, could you imagine Magnum PI taking the bus everywhere?

I’ll be there soon. I’m just, I’m just waiting for the five 30. Well, it’s like watching any of these new shows. Well, we’re just cut to the scene where they magically took an Uber from whatever bottle they’re into the next bottle that they’re in, you know, in, in those episodes. So you’re leaving out, you’re leaving out such an iconic and probably one of the earliest ones that we’re not even talking about.

That’s the foot mobile. You can’t see the intro to the Flintstones without Fred Flintstone rocking that foot mobile. You know, I wasn’t thinking about cartoons, but you’re right. Look at Wacky Races. I mean, there’s been a lot of Hanna Barbera stuff. The Mystery Machine with Scooby Doo. Exactly. That was all.

as the show. [00:38:00] Sure. That’s true. It was a VW bus, too. Did you know that? The Henry. It’s either that or a Dodge A100, but people are still arguing about that. We’ll let them continue to argue about it. You can’t bring up the Mystery Machine without bringing up the A Team van. There you go. 18 band is legit. I want one of those.

My least sexy pick though. No, my least sexy pick though is the, uh, Oh three escalade. And it’s only because I’m a big cigar guy at the same time. And anytime I’m able to smoke in the car, which I don’t have an escalator, I just think of Tony Soprano rocking in the very beginning where he’s just like driving through New Jersey turbines, get that cigar.

And I’m like, yes, I want to be allowed to smoke in my car. I’m not, you know, But I think you’d be a next level cigar smoker. If you can rock the Escalade like Tony Soprano. Unfortunately, you know, we, we talk a lot on the show about like the EV revolution and what’s coming next and all that. And, and, you know, I was kind of thinking about it, you know, cars and TV and cars and movies and all that.

And, you know, we talked about the sound that goes with that. And I, and I mentioned on another episode with somebody, they were, they were going on about Miami vice, which was [00:39:00] another show that had, you know, cars involved, Ferraris and whatnot, but they were, they were kick cars. And back then, a lot of times they would use the.

Sound from like a Porsche from a nine 11, cause that a very distinct sound and actually made for pretty good recording, but it kind of dawned on me with these EVs coming out. You know, if we were to create, you know, 2021, the new, you know, Magnum PI or the new Knight rider, but it was, you know, driving into Tesla or Prius or Nissan leaf, like what do you got, you got, you got a silent film, like there’s, there’s, I guess you still use the Porsche soundtrack.

I mean, I don’t know, like, what, what is, what does that look like? Or do we just. Like I mentioned before, do we just skip it all together and just go to cut scenes and not worry about how people got from one point to another? It makes for a very boring movie. And I think they would all sound like either the Jetsons or the way the car sounded in demolition, man.

That are just hoverboards from like back to the future to yes, yes, I think a futuristic car at this point, like, it’s got to be wide [00:40:00] so that people can sit six feet apart. Like, this is a big spread out. Does it have a face mask over the grill too? Yeah, exactly. Over the car. And then maybe just like a dispenser that pops out a face mask for you as you sit down that you’re hopping out of your car.

Unlock and then the page smash just drops down. Thank you. So it makes me wonder though. So you bring that up. Is that like the show upload on Amazon? Have you seen that? That’s a fantastic show. It was a very underrated show. Yeah, it is. And I’m waiting for it to come back. And unfortunately it probably won’t, but you remember the bubble cars that they drove in?

So when you, when you said that, it conjured up that imagery, you know, is that what the future looks like? Or Is it like black mirror, which I don’t know how you feel about that show. Oh, I love it. They’re watching us right now. I mean, they’re listening to everything we say. There’s going to be a bubble car out.

We’re going to let them watch us. Yeah. There’s going to be a bubble car outside your house. When you leave today, it’s already here. How did they know that it’s there? Black mirror. Exactly, exactly. So, you know, I think, though, much to what we’re, [00:41:00] we’re kind of beating around the bush. The point here is that TV has changed a lot.

I think cars still have a relevance in movies, especially some of these bigger budget films that we’ll talk about here in a minute and get your feedback on that. But I think TV has changed a lot, right? We’re seeing just just a shift. I mean, I do find myself. Spending less and less time watching, you know, sitcoms anymore because, you know, I get tired of the bottle episodes.

I’m looking for something a little grittier. I found myself watching shows like the sinner. I don’t know if you’ve watched that. That’s on Netflix right now. That’s bill Pullman. Uh, Jessica Beals in the first season. Awesome show. He drives a Chevy Impala, by the way. So if Tanya is listening, I, we know how you feel about that car.

It’s really not that exciting, but that’s not the point. But you know, there’s, there’s shows like that, uh, money heist, you know, things like that. I really need to be engaged in the story. Like the older I’ve gotten, I can’t just deal with the fluff anymore, but I have seen a shift though, where a lot of the stories that I guess we missed as kids [00:42:00] that were in the news are now becoming mockumentaries.

And I did a review on this on our website, and I know I shared it with you guys on take two universe where, you know, Must see Mockumentaries, like the Shelby American story or the Fangio story, which was, you know, a little bit of, a little bit borderline straight up documentary. But then you have things like framing John DeLorean with Alec Baldwin, right.

Talking about not DeLorean the car, which is iconic as we know, and was the car of the future for a long time there. But the man, John z DeLorean, right. And his whole story. And I don’t know if you were able to, to catch up on that after we posted about it, but I wanted to get your thoughts. Yeah, I watched it.

I was glad you posted because I hadn’t come across our radar whatsoever. And I actually made my cohost, Tony. He watched as well. It was like you just said, it was more on the guy, which any story that is more character driven is better than just your plot. In my opinion. But no, it was a good doc and, and the other docs that you’ve been throwing up there, the mockumentaries, as you mentioned, that it is becoming a thing.

Maybe it’s just because of our age or where we grow up. Like we didn’t come across [00:43:00] those stories, I think, as you were saying, and now we’re like, Oh, wow, I kind of do remember, you know, when that happened and now, you know, you find out so much more stuff. And now that you’re an adult, you can pick up on things, but the more car docs we can get would be better.

Does that lead us into this shift that we’ve seen in movies now where we’re getting these biopics and, you know, we’re starting to see, like, even on Netflix, you’re seeing Drive to Survive, like the whole backstory of Formula One and all these shows where it’s a little bit more documentary esque with some fun things thrown in there, but some of the big, big films, right?

Racing in the Rain. Rush directed and produced by Ron Howard and all that, you know, Ford versus Ferrari, where it’s taking these true stories and maybe exaggerating them a little bit, but not necessarily to the point of Fast and the Furious, but keeping older audiences like ourselves more engaged. So I want to get your feedback on those films, because those are in the last five years, they’re big budget films.

Yeah. I mean, Hollywood’s definitely down that path right now where we are rewarding. Documentary style films, or, you know, biopics, you know, you’ve seen the Bohemian Rhapsody. You saw it with Rocketman. You know, you’ve seen [00:44:00] musically, there’s a Tina Turner thing that’s coming out. Aretha Franklin is coming out.

We’re totally expecting award season to own those. And it’s a tough draw because you’re like, all right, this is more like a biopic type stuff, but they’re still giving us good performances. So that is then bleeding over like Ford v Ferrari. And that’s it. People were like, Oh, all right. I like the actors involved.

I guess I’ll go see it. It’s a car movie, whatever. And then regular people that aren’t big into cars as you and your listeners are watching like, man, that was frigging awesome movie. That was great. Then it gets nommed for best picture. And people were like, I’m totally down with that. I really enjoyed my time with that movie.

I don’t know if I should win. But I’m totally done with that nomination. And I haven’t heard anyone that’s seen that movie and just been like, well, it’s disgusting. Are you guys being car guys? You might’ve picked it apart and saw things. I mean, he shifted 14 times in like a quarter mile and you know, he’s doing 200 mile an hour and then he pushes the pedal like another six feet and you’re like, come on, but he always had, he always had an extra gear.

I just don’t get it. Like, you know, we’re at 200 and we’re going to downshift and suddenly do two 50. I’m like, come on. [00:45:00] But you know, you’re, you, you have to sustain. Like in any film you’re there to be entertained. Unlike the fast and the furious where you go in knowing you’re like, Oh man, it’s going to be, it’s going to be pretty epic.

And you just have to check all of it at the door for versus Ferrari. I mean, there’s some cool backstory. There are some things that got left on the cutting room floor, but some of those scenes, like where. It’s supposed to be Henry Ford. The second is in the car. And it’s like, Oh my God, if my granddaddy could see me now, he’s like crying.

I mean, you know, that really didn’t happen in real life, but you’re like that just, it was such a great scene and just so epic to the story and all of that, you know, I’m choosing to believe that that actually happened. I am too. I am too. Now I will say the scenes with Iacocca, which I thought was cool.

Cause that was the first time I had seen Leah Iacocca represented in any movie until this point. And I want them If you don’t know his backstory or has read his memoirs or his autobiography or whatever, truly gifted genius businessman, you know, save Chrysler from the brink [00:46:00] twice over and you know, he had a vision for the future, especially for the auto world and all the things he went through at Ford under, you know, Henry Ford, the second, all that amazing story there.

I hope somebody makes a movie. If you’re listening out there, definitely got to have a movie. I can’t say it enough. Much like Michael Keaton needs to do Batman beyond just going to put it out there one more time. For the universe. All right. But, but, uh, keep talking, all kidding, aside that scene for those of you that don’t speak my native tongue, that scene between Iacocca and Enzo Ferrari in Italian.

I mean, I was already giggling. Before the subtitles hit the screen, because it, you know, the translation came a little slower than expected. And I thought it was absolutely fantastic. I was like, we just need to take that thread and just pull it a little bit more, like, let’s do an Enzo movie. Let’s do a, you know, let’s do an Iacocca movie.

Let’s do some other things there. And I know that there’s, we talked about it on the drive thru. There’s a Ayrton Senna. Television series coming out on [00:47:00] Netflix sometimes either this year or next year. And we’re kind of scratching our heads on that one because much like Titanic, we know the ending. So, and a lot of us lived through that, right?

That was the nineties. And so it’ll be interesting to see where that goes too. But to your point, Brian, I like the fact that more of these biopics are coming out or biopics, depending on how you want to pronounce it. For me, I think the one that kicked it off and I’ve mentioned it before. And I don’t know if you’ve seen this movie is a love the beast with Eric Banner.

I have not. Okay, so if you haven’t seen this movie, or Brad, do you want to talk about it? Uh, I mean it’s all about his love affair and obsession with this Ford Falcon that he has. I think did he buy it when he was a teenager and he just, he’s owned it ever since. And it’s gone through many changes. I think it’s going through a few accidents, a few race incidents, uh, and he’s just in love with this car.

And it’s all about that obsession. Exactly. And so The opening scene of the movie really exemplifies a lot of the things we talk about on this show and the things that we’re passionate about. And [00:48:00] so he’s got this monologue and he apparently now he has a fleet of cars, right? And so he’s in this older nine 11 and he’s driving around some track in Australia.

It’s not Bathurst or anything like that. It’s some, you know, kind of lesser known track. He’s driving around. He has this kind of moment where he’s just telling the story to set in the stage. And it’s all about like being in the zone and hyper focused and what driving really means to him. To people that, you know, are, are into cars and this kind of thing.

And he really tries to relate where he’s going to take the story to the audience, to the viewer. Right. And it engages you right away. And now he’s got some guest stars on there. He’s got like Leno and he’s got Dr. Phil, and he’s got some other people. He’s trying to work through a problem. Like he’s at, he’s at a crossroads.

And to Brad’s point, he’s owned this car since before he was famous. It was like his first car and he’s got all these memories working on it with his dad and working on it with his high school buddies and whatever. And then, you know, he’s had it in the family and he’s always kept it around. It’s kind of his baggage, you know, if you think about it.

And so there’s an emotional connection there and it’s all about that [00:49:00] emotional connection. He calls it his baggage. Beast. Right. And so now that he’s rich and famous and you start in all these different movies that he’s been in, be it Star Trek nemesis, be it was he in Troy, he was in a bunch of other movies, right?

Some of these epic films that had come out, uh, he was not the main star that was Brad Pitt and Troy. I know, but he was in that movie. I think he was Xerxes or something like he’s the bad guy. Yeah. They had the good, the, uh, sword fighting. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No cars. Sorry. No cars. No, no, just swords. But it’s still, it’s all metal.

It’s all good. It’s a couple of chariots. Does that count maybe? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’ll work. It’s got horsepower. So with that being said, you know, make a long story short, you know, now that he’s got money, he’s like, I’m going to do all these kinds of things. And Brad said, you know, he got into this race and I don’t want to spoil it.

You know, something happens. And now he’s like, what do I do? Do I let it go? Or do I, you know, breathe new life into it yet again, you know, another time over. And it, and not to say that he can’t afford it, but it’s just, I, it’s just, it was an emotional journey and it’s a [00:50:00] very emotional film and, and I highly recommend it, Brian, if you haven’t checked it out.

So definitely worth watching. I like it. Very nice. I’ll take the recommendation. And I echo your, I Coco have that, especially if John Bernthal plays him. Yeah, he did excellent job. So, and he, I liked pretty much like anything’s. He does. Yeah. Yeah. And he looked a lot. Well, I’m going to say he didn’t look a lot like, but he resembled Iacocca.

There was a good casting call. I think on their, on their choice. We talked about Ford versus Ferrari. What did you think of rush? I enjoyed it. I have not seen them in a minute. And I remember you’re mentioning it. I believe in the show notes or whatever. I was like, ah, crap. I wish I had time to go back and rewatch.

Cause I remember enjoying my time with it a little darker, a little kind of like a grittier, not for, for V Ferraris. Fun, you know, and big blockbuster rush, not so much more of like an indie feel to it. But I remember enjoying it very much. I’m assuming you yourself enjoy it. Yeah, I thought it was excellent.

I mean, I wouldn’t have expected a film like that from Ron Howard, right? But it was, I thought from a cinematic perspective on par with the Apollo thirteens and all the other movies, it just had that [00:51:00] certain quality and certain polish to it that you would expect from Ron Howard. But going into it, I felt like Rush was a big hush, like we didn’t really know it was coming until it came out and you’re like, wait, you did a movie about formula one, like, hold on a second.

Right. And then when I went in with kind of like mixed emotions and mixed expectations, like it’s a Ron Howard film, it’s going to be awesome. But. It’s a Ron Howard film. Is it going to be like nine hours and super boring too? But I think it had a great balance between the two where it was like, he really told the story.

He really made a point to your point. It was darker. It was grittier. It was the behind the scenes of all the things that were happening in formula one in the sixties and early seventies. And I think it was, it was absolutely fantastic. Good call. Good call. I know that Brad can talk to this as a pet owner at some point, but what did you think of racing in the rain?

I’m trying to think of the pet. No, I’m probably not remembering the film properly then. Not what I expected. I did not read the book. So I did not know what to expect. [00:52:00] And yeah, very sad. But it’s not necessarily a car movie. It’s about the dog and the guy and all that stuff, right? It’s about a series of unfortunate events.

Basically. Okay. I mean, everything is like negative. The only, the only tie into the, to being in cars is the fact that the main character happens to be a race car driver, his passion, his cars. And he, his dog gets seen through the eyes of his dog, who apparently also has a passion for cars and everything like that.

But really the, the movie itself is not about cars at all. It’s about the human struggle. And like how life gives you lemons over and over and over again, and just how you overcome them eventually. Wait, is this Milo the Tameklia Kevin Costner? Yes. Okay. I still haven’t seen it, but now I at least know I’m remembering the trailers at the very least.

Okay. Costner is the voice of the dog. Okay. I was saying, all right, so I have my moves. I was thinking about racing against the sun to the different movie where they do the solar power [00:53:00] sun. So, uh, against the rain, I have not seen, but are there. Cars involved. Like, do we get some races at some point? Yeah, there’s some, there’s some clips in here and there.

It was one of those ones I avoided because I heard it was like, what was that other movie with Owen Wilson and the dog? What was that one called? My Marley and Me. Yeah. So it’s got one of those. I wasn’t planning on crying today. Thanks Eric. Yeah. A hundred percent. Right. So it’s one of those kinds of movies where it just like.

Just rips it out of you kind of deal. I mean, look at all these movies we’re adding to his queue. He’s going to have like 900 episodes after we’re done here. Yeah. Thanks.

Kind of switching gears a little bit. I noticed in some of your recent posts online that you guys were doing 40 days of sports, so I was following that and I’m following, you know, all the things you guys are posting and I got this glimmer of hope because a lot of people don’t recognize that motor sports.

Is a sport it takes, you know, there’s a lot of physical conditioning and training and all this and I’m, I’m looking and I’m looking and I’m like, come on, man, give me something here. I gave [00:54:00] you a pass. I gave you a pass. You gave me days of thunder. But it was on like half the screen with something else. I was like, come on.

I was like cop gear with NASCAR. I mean, top gun with NASCAR. Yeah. Right. So I was looking for something in there. So I was like, we need some retribution, but I know that that whole campaign is over now. So yeah, that led up to opening day. I think that was the only, so what other car, which car sports movies should we have, have had a fun fact.

Tom Cruise wrote days of thunder, but which other ones, which, uh, which other car sports like in, in that realm should Ford V Ferrari had been in there without a calendar. I think that Rush probably would have counted. Rush would have counted. Rush for sure. Le Mans, if you were doing something classic with Steve McQueen back in the day.

Talladega Nights. Talladega Nights would have been good. Yeah. Okay. You’re right. I think that’s running. See, I have a thing on my show where I’m not anti Will Ferrell, but we’ll just use that phrase. I’ve listened to the episodes. Yeah. It’s like, here’s the same old trope. If I were to bring up [00:55:00] something, Will Ferrell, I would get destroyed on our show.

You know what? You know what? No, let’s do it. Let’s do it. Let’s talk about the Superbowl commercials with Will Ferrell. And I’m pitching for GM. What’d you think of that? He did a good job. He paid for it. Was it US versus Norway or something? I thought that we were going to do like some sort of Olympics thing.

And then it turned out to be like a pitch for the new, uh, Cadillac Lyric, which is an EV that’s coming out. And I just thought that was nuts. Okay. Yeah. How about, how about car commercials, commercial, you know, that, that can be an entire episode in and of itself and the kind of haste and they’re rolling a booger and the Cadillac and all those commercials.

I go in my Lincoln. Yeah. And how many commercial, how many Mercedes commercials have been voiced over by Jon Hamm now? Like it feels like every single one of them in the last. Five years, right? He, he, he left Mad Men and he went to Mercedes. It’s like, I still get it. You know, he’s pitching ads for Mercedes.

Oh, speaking of Mad [00:56:00] Men, my, one of my favorite scenes in television is when the British guy, I can’t remember his name and then his parents character name, he tries to commit suicide. And he has a loaner Jag because they’re pitching advertisements for Jaguar, and he can’t get it to start. So we can’t kill himself.

His last name was Price. I don’t remember his first name. Yes, yes, yes. It’s not Vincent Price, but we’ll go with Vincent Price. Sterling Draper something Price, right, was the whole conglomerate there. Yeah, that’s right. Um, but yeah, I mean, to your point, yeah, he had that, that E type Jag that was, that was fantastic.

That could not start. What a shocker there. British car that won’t run. If you want to know more about that, folks, just listen to our British owners club episode. You’ll learn all about all about Jags that run, you know, to your point. I mean, even, um, the guy that played, uh, Sterling did a bunch of voiceovers for Lincoln and stuff.

So it’s kind of funny when you’ve been so entrenched in a show and then these Hollywood actors are doing, like you said, McConaughey, John Hamm and so on. John Slattery. Yeah. John Slattery, exactly. Doing these [00:57:00] voiceovers for these commercials. There’s maybe two, three veins of car commercials, right? There’s like the ones that are just the dealer ones are like, or whatever.

And then there’s the ones that are for the fast and furious and all the Hollywood box buster movies showing some sort of car chasing to kind of suck you in. And then I think there’s just those oddball ones, like the John Cena mountain do Superbowl commercial, where I hate to tell you folks, the star of that commercial is not John Cena.

It is the watermelon color Geo Metro convertible. All right, that is the winner and underappreciated complete and utter shit box. But that card now will live in infamy. Thanks to that commercial. And we talk about the Geo Metro quite often, but we’re still trying to find one. So if anybody’s got one in fuchsia.

We are still looking. So let us know. But, uh, I have to say my favorite car commercial goes back to the early two thousands with the Pontiac Trans Am. Uh, and it’s it’s black. It’s foggy. You can’t really see anything. And then there’s this like, unsuspecting [00:58:00] econo box and all of a sudden there’s a Trans Am that pulls up behind him and either stop sign or stop sign or a light.

And then the Trans Am revs his engine like it’s hungry. And then the economy box disappears because the Trans Am swallows it. They don’t make commercials like that anymore. And I think to your point, Brad, right up there with that was for me, one of the ones there’s two, actually one was in the aired in the U S by the same, you know, the same company for these two commercials.

So one was aired in the U S and it was the Audi 5, 000 driving up. A ski jump in the snow. And that was fantastic. And that was legit. That wasn’t CGI. This was done in the eighties, you know, and then there was another one that they aired in Germany. It was either the 5, 000 or the car that came right after the 100, 200.

And they’re driving up a mountain road in the snow with. No tires on the wheels to prove how good the all wheel drive was in those cars. And you know, there’s like almost no talking in the commercial and you’re just like, what am I watching? But it’s, they’re just so on the nose impactful. They don’t, I hate to say they don’t make them like that [00:59:00] anymore.

There’s only one other commercial that I can think of. That was not aired here in the U. S., but I don’t know how I came across it, YouTube, I guess. It was the Ford Sport Car. And the whole commercial is there’s a cat climbing on the car because the car has its sunroof open. And I guess the owner was tired of the cat getting in and out of the car or whatever.

But the car, apparently, is mental. And the cat sticks its head in and the car closes its sunroof on the cat. There’s that there’s a, there’s a couple of those, but there’s, there’s a whole series of it. Oh yeah. There’s the one where the bird is trying to poop on the car and it swoops down and then it suddenly opens the hood and kills the bird.

Like they all ended like animal cruelty. I guess they, they were definitely abusing, probably not very low looked upon nowadays. They’re not very PC. No, absolutely not. But they were funny for the time. And the car is, you know, something the size of a card table. It’s a tiny little thing, but it does look kind of menacing to your point, Brad.

So I think that was really [01:00:00] creative on Ford UK’s part, uh, to, to come up with that stuff way back in the nineties. But, you know, I think you’re, you’re right there with the trunk monkey. Do you remember those commercials? I think so. I remember the Volkswagen unpimp Z auto. Oh, those are terrible too. There’s good.

Like I said, Brian, there’s good car commercials and there’s some terrible ones, there’s another one where I watched it and it’s about the, um, the late eighties VW, GTI, and it always happened to be Volkswagen commercials and it’s like, it starts off and it’s like, it’s called the man, I think it is. And it’s like, this is the man that does this and that, and this is the man that does the other thing.

And it’s basically like. this dude was gonna go basically end his life and instead he walks out and he sees his gti and suddenly he’s like yeah i’m over it i’m going for a drive you’re like whoa this is dark stuff right like this really aired on tv like it’s pretty nuts but no the trunk monkey Oh, those were some of the like [01:01:00] early, like web ads, like webisode ads.

And it was, I forget, it was like something out West and it was like, this guy’s like roadside assistance. And so he hits like this on start button and the monkey comes out of the truck and he’s got a tire iron. I mean, it’s like, it’s the truck monkey. Listeners, you know what I’m talking about. Go search it.

It’s on, I’m envisioning it now and it’s on e bombs world somewhere, right up there with home star runner and all the rest of this boomer shit that we’ve been talking about. Well, if you’re talking about web series, remember BMW did a couple short films on YouTube, like seven, eight minutes. One of the most iconic ones is the BMW M5 ushering around Madonna in the backseat, flipping and flopping all over the place with Clive Owen driving.

Well, those were the ones directed and, uh, produced by John Woo, if I remember correctly. So again, another big Hollywood name coming in. Wow. Interesting. See, this is again, where we cross over. There’s a lot going on. So, uh, Brian, this has been a lot of [01:02:00] fun. I mean, it was kind of non sequitur there for some moments, but you know, like I said, there’s a huge crossover between cars, the car culture, Hollywood, As our listeners know, we’ve done a couple episodes now where we’ve talked about a bunch of different movies.

We’ve had some other guests on the show that are from Hollywood. So if you haven’t caught that episode yet, you know, go back and check that out. But, uh, you know, it’s really kind of cool to, you know, line things up, see where they go and, you know, we’re really looking forward to what comes out next. Like I said, you know, with fast nine and some of these other movies, see what the future, uh, what Hollywood will bring us, but, uh, you know, it’s been a lot of fun having you on the show and, uh, you know, maybe we’ll, we’ll do another crossover episode in the future.

Yeah, I’m thinking somewhere around when fast nine eventually, hopefully one day it gets released. We’re supposed to be getting it this year. Let’s fingers crossed that it happens. Uh, maybe we go see that thing in the theaters and then maybe we can chat about it again. I love your show. You guys do a very conversational approach to your show and it’s a breath of fresh air.

We love it. Whereas some people are very more analytical. You guys are just guys talking and dropping some serious knowledge. [01:03:00] And that’s the best part. So thank you very much for having me on folks. If you’re interested in more Hollywood type stuff, we drop a show every single week we drop on Tuesdays. Uh, so listen to our show first and then listen to these guys after on Tuesday podcast, you can find us on all socials at take two podcasts for Twitter, Instagram, Facebook.

We have two Facebook pages there. Eric is heavy on our take to universe page. And then, uh, you can, of course. Find us on all of your platforms, iTunes, Spotify, Google play, and whatnot. And that’s take two T O O because all of your latest Hollywood news, TV, movie reviews, and our take two. That’s very cool.

And you know what else we should do, Brian? I think it would be a lot of fun. Hint, hint, wink, nudge, nudge. We should do a MST three K style review. I was thinking the same thing. Yes. Not masterpiece theater, mystery science theater, my man. Stop watching PBS. Okay. So if you and Tony are up for it, we’d love to do that together.

You know, big shout out to you, Brian and to Tony. I know Tony couldn’t make it [01:04:00] tonight. Maybe we’ll get him on the next episode. I listened to you guys. I know some of our other listeners and some of our members listen to you guys as well. Kudos to you guys, especially, you know, crossing that 200 episode barrier.

Fantastic. And for our listeners out there, you know, Brian was a big. Inspiration. He really helped Brad and I get off the blocks here at break fix. So, you know, I was bugging him constantly. And then finally he’s like, you know, to use our words, he’s like, just send it, man, just get it done. And so we did, and you know, here we are 50 plus episodes later.

And so a big round of applause to you for helping us out and getting us to where we are today. So again, can’t thank you enough for coming on the show. It’s been absolutely excellent. Thank you guys. And congrats, congrats on 50 and the next 50. I look forward to them.

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