King of the Mountain: Canyon Racing, Cringe, and Car Culture Chaos

Fun, Fun facts – in fact… they are Super Fun Facts!

• Rotten Tomatoes: No critic reviews. Audience score? 47%.
• Budget: $2 million. Gross: $1.8 million.
• Origin Story: Loosely based on a 1978 article by David Berry about the Mulholland Racing Association.
• Real Inspiration: Chris Banning built a purpose-built Porsche 911 RSR to dominate Mulholland Drive. The car, known as the “911 Mulholland,” is now housed at the Petersen Automotive Museum.
• Elvira appears as the angry neighbor, yelling from the balcony in full “Lady of the Night” mode. Buddy, betrayed and disillusioned, peels off in his Mustang and heads to the mountain. Steve realizes he’s gone and gets into a shouting match with a parking attendant. Why? Who knows.

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Break Fix.

Ashley McAnelly: The following episode is intended for mature audiences. Please note that listener discretion is advised. And now I hit the button.

Crew Chief Eric: Hi, miss. Come to push the button. Ooh, that’s a good pick. Should I do a dramatic intro? All right. All right. We’re back in 1981 and a group of friends raced their high powered cars up and down, a dangerous and deadly mountain road, known as Mulholland Drive to see who can claim the title of King of the Mountain.

Yeah.

Steve & Izzy: Wait, I already saw this Skull, silver Dream racer. Guys, if you haven’t seen Silver Dream Racer, if you’ve seen this movie, you’ve seen Silver Dream Racer, [00:01:00] just motorcycles.

Crew Chief Eric: So this is Tanya’s recommendation. Ooh. And I’m so happy that we are literally picking up exactly where we left off the last time.

We’ve got big hair and leather jackets and music montages and everything that the last Chase was missing is in this movie.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. So much in this movie, I’m like, oh, this had to been made like 1974 or right. Something. Oh, oh. 81. Really. Alright. Yeah guys, we gotta go around the room and nobody knows who they’re even listening to right now.

Well, I’m Steve. And I’m Izzy. And we’re with everything I learned from movies and Tonight Jack King in the Mountain. But we have with us the three The Only from the Grand Tour Motor Sports Break Fix podcast, Eric Mountain, Manan. Andrea, welcome. Well, don’t forget Brad’s here too. Hey Brad. Oh, and Brad’s iPhone.

That’s right. Sorry. He doesn’t have his picture on. I’m sorry, Brad,

Crew Chief Brad: you all don’t have your pictures on. So there you go.

Steve & Izzy: I believe that’s called Quid pro quo.

Crew Chief Brad: Yes. Tit for tit.

Steve & Izzy: So we only have six ho so we’ll be able [00:02:00] to get all of our funny lines in. It’s gonna be great. There you go. But yeah, 1980 one’s King of the Mountain.

So is this everybody’s first time watching this movie?

Executive Producer Tania: Yes.

Steve & Izzy: Yes. Yes. Maybe Tanya. I don’t

Executive Producer Tania: know. Tanya.

Steve & Izzy: Tanya.

Executive Producer Tania: No, I had never seen it. Okay. Okay. I had not seen it. I found it.

Steve & Izzy: Well, yeah, we, uh, we found out some interesting stuff about this movie. Looking into it though. Oh boy. Before we get too deep into this first time, watch for all of us.

I don’t know about you guys. I’m a little thirsty. I’m sober. I need to fix that. Yeah, right. Well, we have from Sockeye Brewing in Boise, Idaho. Dagger Falls. IPA 6.5% out call by volume and 100 IBUs. Woo-hoo. 12 ounce canned has a beautiful salmon on the front. Yeah. I believe it was sockeye salmon. That was, I mean it sure as hell.

Better me. Sockeye brewing my dog. That was a chum or luskin king. Oh, well, weird. Uh, my top. Top. Nice. Oh look. My top. My top. Everybody take your tops off.

Crew Chief Eric: Woo. You don’t wanna see that? Mm-hmm. [00:03:00]

Steve & Izzy: Oh man. Happy beer. Very pine forward. Yeah. Very, uh, piny and, uh, little mossy to it. Like a little earthy. Little earthy.

Yeah. And almost has a little bit of Metallica on the back end. Not like it tastes rusty, but like, got like an irony. Shitness to it must be all the blood from the salmons. Maybe, maybe a hint of Mercury. Who knows? Yummy. Mm-hmm. It’s actually very good. It’s an aggressive beer though. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Definitely. Like after about two of these, you’d be like, all right, I gotta switch up to something. More water like. Any guys drinking

Crew Chief Eric: anything? I was gonna say, speaking of water, three guesses with the rest of the GTM crew is drinking tonight. But in honor of recent summer vacation adventures, I’ve got a Negroni.

This stuff has got the same proof as gasoline and it’s fantastic.

Steve & Izzy: Google translating what Negroni translates to? No,

Crew Chief Eric: mostly compar. Oh, thank

Steve & Izzy: God. I was close. I was way off. Everybody else is drinking water fresh from their Well, if I remember correctly. That is correct. Dan gets it from the crick. 350 feet below your house or whatever.

There you [00:04:00] go. Hi. My. I remember about Mike. Yeah. And all his Bronco twos.

Mountain Man Dan: That was a below the waist hit right there. That’s not going.

Crew Chief Eric: So, Steve, before you introduce the movie and the cast and whatever, I wanna just talk about the opening. Just the opening for a moment.

Steve & Izzy: Okay.

Crew Chief Eric: The music and the score, it sort of sets the tone for this film and the cast, the characters that are part of it.

Did anybody else get the Rockford files vibe from the opening of this movie?

Crew Chief Brad: There’s a little bit of that in here. All I remember from the opening, the first two scenes, I guess, him driving up and down the road and then like the, the Camaro trying to race him, and he’s like, no dog. The songs just did not fit with what I was watching on the screen.

Yeah. But it felt like you all mentioned like this movie was clearly made in the seventies and it clearly was not the opening music Rockford files. Well, I never watched Rockford files, so you know, I’m out there. But for those first two like big scenes, I’m like, [00:05:00] this does not fit at all.

Crew Chief Eric: I watched this movie on a layover in Detroit ’cause I had that much time to kill and it was free on Voodoo.

I related to it because I’ve driven Mulholland Drive and I did it with a buddy of mine. So shout out to Paul Willam Osky, who lives in la. We did it in his Porsche, also Silver, like the whoa movie. Whoa, whoa.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah, yeah.

Crew Chief Eric: I mean, calm down. So immediately I was relating to this. I was like, oh, this is cool, this is cool.

But I talk about that opening because that’s where they’re introducing the characters to you. It’s that got that late seventies, early eighties, we’re rolling the credits while the guy’s driving down the road, just like the Rockford files. So I was sort of like, this is the moment where Harry Hamlin.

Dennis Hopper, and you know, and Steve, you’ll carry the list of the rest of the stars that are in this movie. But I was just like, what am I in for? Am I in for a treat or am I in for disappointment?

Steve & Izzy: Well, the disappointment for me was like, during that whole thing, you, you always got the narration stuff going, the helicopter shots.

I don’t know if they just have it on like some sort of spiral thing going like, I was getting car sick. Just watching.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. [00:06:00] It was like

Steve & Izzy: circling, circling, you know, windy roads. Yeah. And kind of keep along with that. It’s like. But yes, 1980 one’s King of the Mountain from Director Noel Sek, who see Steve. Oh, I’m glad you asked.

Over 40 credits, including, um, best Friends Las Vegas, lady Dreamer, not to be confused with Silver Tree Racer, we might talk about later. What, uh, this. And then tv, movies like Roman Holiday, summer Fantasy Without a Kiss. Goodbye. Born Too Soon. And guys, what I’ve instantly added to our, uh, watch list tornado 1996.

Ooh. Basically it looks like the TV Ripoff of Twister. Yeah. But, but it stars Bruce Campbell and Ernie Hudson. Oh, man. You said Bruce Campbell. I’m in, yeah. Right. Hudson. Sold. And then he also followed that up with What kind of mother are you? Right. And three episodes of Charmed. Oh, but the writing for this, oh my gosh.

This is based on an article by David Barry. Ooh. Just like the Fast and Furious universe, just like the Fast and Furious [00:07:00] universe. That’s what I was hoping for going to this movie. That was my expectation. A fast and Furious or higher, I mean, the entire script is in two loose leaf pages.

Crew Chief Eric: I mean, there’s not a lot of dialogue.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah, there’s not a lot. But yeah, basically the David Berry who wrote the article did that. He’s the editor of 2000 Five’s Transamerica Killer. AKA Switch Killer. Okay. Ooh, it’s only credits on IMDB. Wonder if it’s even the same person, honestly. Oh, but gosh, the writer, Lee Chapman. Who’s she? Who’s she? Whoa.

Lady writer. Lady writer. I know. For this movie, that’s actually kind of surprising. I mean, it is. Uh, yeah. Episodes of Wild Wild West. My favorite Martian truck Turner. Oh, you guys know Truck Turner, right? Isaac Hayes. Seventies Blaxploitation. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Guaranteed. 10 out 10. And then what? I’m sure you guys are familiar with Dirty Mary.

Crazy Larry. I’ve heard of that. Yeah. Oh, it’s a car. Nut one. You’ll love it. Okay. Steel? No, not the Shaq movie. The one with Lee Majors. Okay. Octagon This and of course, two [00:08:00] episodes of Walker Texas Ranger. If you had only said Rockford Viles. I know, right? And the other writer, HR Christian, black Mama, white Mama.

Yeah. Active Vengeance. It’s a rape revenge movie from the seventies and this, that’s it. Wow. Three and out of the park. Let’s talk about the cast. Oh my gosh. Harry Hamlin as Steve, the greatest name in history. Harry Hamlin himself. That’s right. Who’s he? Is he not a freaking G Cliff? Yeah, I had to look it up too.

He’s Perseus and Clash of The Titans. Yep. Yay. 105 episodes of LA Law. 15 of madman. 16 of Mayfair Witches.

Crew Chief Eric: I have never had heard of Harry Hamlin.

Steve & Izzy: No.

Crew Chief Eric: Well, you guys know everything about everything. You don’t know who Harry Amlin is? No. Yeah.

Steve & Izzy: He must be a TV actor.

Crew Chief Eric: No. We only watch

Steve & Izzy: good movies. I only watch The Real Clash of The Titans with Liam Nees.

Executive Producer Tania: Yeah. He’s also very famously the husband of a very famous actress, or at least she was back in the day.

Crew Chief Eric: Ooh, she, [00:09:00] well, Lisa Rena, right? Yeah. Who? Who? He was married to Lisa Rena. Oh my God. He’s still married to Lisa. They’re still married. Oh, I know Lisa

Steve & Izzy: Rena. Okay. The one with the big lip again, the TV star.

Yeah. Yeah. From Melrose Place, the big Lip TV star that pops up. Yeah.

Executive Producer Tania: Melrose Place, days of our live.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. Gee, no wonder. I don’t know who either of them really are. Well, she was a model too, right? Yeah.

Executive Producer Tania: Yeah.

Steve & Izzy: Super into

Executive Producer Tania: women’s fashion and modeling, by the way. Oh,

Steve & Izzy: oh, totally, totally. All the way in.

Executive Producer Tania: Have you heard of Cindy Crawford and the other who, I don’t even know the other name.

Steve & Izzy: Kathy Ireland as an owner of Alien from LA starring Kathy Ireland. Yes, I am familiar with Cindy Crawford as well.

Executive Producer Tania: Okay, so you have heard of female models before. I am

Steve & Izzy: familiar with Kathy Ireland due to Mr. S Cedar, three thousand’s. Crow being obsessed with her. There you go. And Pepsi commercials in the nineties.

Oh, that’s Cindy Craw retainer. Necessary roughness. There we go. That’s the one I’m thinking of. The guy’s, Dan Haggerty’s in this fucking movie as Rick.

Crew Chief Eric: Who’s he seeing for

Steve & Izzy: a scene or two?

Crew Chief Eric: Is that the guy that looks like Barry Gibb?

Steve & Izzy: Yeah, [00:10:00] he’s Grizzly Adams. Maybe you’ve heard of him.

Crew Chief Eric: I kept writing down.

Barry Gibbs said this and Barry Gibbs said that. From the beaches, right?

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. Uh, you might also know Dan Haggerty from one of the greatest movies ever made Mine Trap. AKA Danger USA. Oh shit. Yeah. They’re like, who? Yeah. Who else we got in this? We got, uh. Joseph Bottoms as buddy. Who’s he? Steve, aside from being a bottom, let’s see.

Uh, using in Black Hole. Ooh. 22 episodes of the net. You’re telling me Joseph Bottoms is in black hole? Mm-hmm. Okay. Right. Uh, the Dove, hi Ro, in a hot Corvette, one episode of Murder. She wrote 139 of Santa Barbara and of course 23 episodes of Days of Our Lives. So we had a month on set. So we got a lot of TV actors in this movie so far.

Yeah. Debra Van Valkenberg as Tina. She, Steve, well she was in the Warriors.

Crew Chief Eric: No, she was Jackie, she was the daughter on Too close for Comfort.

Steve & Izzy: Yes. [00:11:00] 107 episodes of Too Close for Comfort. Streets of Fire, the Rock. Yeah. From Walter Hill. Streets of Fire. So good. Yeah. Mean Guns. Episodes of Quantum Leap, DS Nines, criminal Minds, ghost Whisper, and of course the Devil’s rejects.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah.

Steve & Izzy: Quite the career.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah.

Steve & Izzy: Uh, then there’s this little known actor named, uh, Dennis Hooper. Oh, I’m sorry. Hopper. Hopper. And it was Cal. Who’s he? He’s from Super Mario Brothers. Yes. King Cooper himself. Super Mario brother. Oh my God. You might also know him from. Speed. Uh, easy Rider Water World. Red Rock West, blue Velvet, and others.

Do it for Van Gogh. Baby.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. Blue Velvet. I remember Blue Velvet.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. Do it for Van Gogh.

Crew Chief Eric: Well, that’s the one where Isabella Rossini streaks

Steve & Izzy: the quad,

Crew Chief Eric: right?

Steve & Izzy: Yes. Mm-hmm. Alright guys. And then now we’re getting to a couple people. We have to bring up. Definitely a, uh, sneezing, you’ll miss him kind of thing.

Blue Ribbon Seymour Castle as Barry Tanner, the record executive. Who’s he? Steve. 220 [00:12:00] plus credits. Probably know him best though as like Sam Ketchum and Dick Tracy. Yep. Uh, dirt from Beer League and we saw him last week in It could happen to you as Jack Gross. The Definitely not Trump. Yeah. The definitely not Trump.

Who cons Nick Cage’s. Wife spoilers. And also guys, Cassandra Peterson is in this movie as the neighbor. Who’s she? Steve. Anybody know this one? Cassandra Peterson? No, but she’s the one that shows up in the 90, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. The night. And you’re like, Hey, stop knocking at the dog. Whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The, the real sexy looking one. That’s Elvira Mistress of the Dark. No. Yes. What. Yeah. By the way, sight without the wig, I’d still get it. Oh, to this day, I know she’s like 72. I’m all right. Steve would be fine with that.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s cool. Wow. I would’ve never guessed that from seeing her in the movie.

Holy smokes.

Steve & Izzy: And that’s the way she wanted it.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah.

Steve & Izzy: Like she wanted

Crew Chief Eric: to be able to walk around and not be ogled. Now that I think about it in that scene, she posed like Elvira with her leg out with the split dress and mm-hmm. The mighty [00:13:00] or whatever. Then now it makes more sense because I was like, this is so random.

We’ll get to it.

Steve & Izzy: And then, uh, we also have William Foresite in this movie as Big Tom. Can anyone tell me who Big Tom was in this movie? No, I missed him. Is he the guy looking for the Breaker bar? Oh, maybe, yeah. One of the guys at the mechanic shop, maybe, I don’t know. Hey guys, you know William Forsyth? Uh, he was, he too was in Dick Tracy.

Stone Cold raising Arizona Devil’s rejects, virtuosity, Savage, Don Cloak and Dagger. Two Bigelow Male Gigolo.

Executive Producer Tania: Wasn’t he the guy that was trying to buy the music? No, that’s Tanner.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah, it’s Barry Tanner. Yeah. Yeah. That’s the Seymour Castle.

Executive Producer Tania: Barry Tanner wrote the music. Wasn’t Barry the friend?

Steve & Izzy: No. No. Buddy wrote the music.

Executive Producer Tania: Oh, buddy. Oh, okay. Yeah,

Steve & Izzy: yeah, yeah. Okay, so the three guys are Steve, buddy and Roger. Right? Those those were the The trio. Yes. And two of ’em look exactly the same except for one is Frow than the other. Yeah. They all have perms. Yeah, well of course, of course. Because it’s 1981, everybody has pers

Crew Chief Brad: I thought Roger was Jerry Seinfeld.

Crew Chief Eric: Yes. Yes. He’s the

Steve & Izzy: Jerry Seinfeld looking guy. Yeah, [00:14:00] you’re right. Yeah. We we were calling him, uh, seventies Adam Driver. Yes. Oh yeah. Yeah, hundred percent. Steve was calling him seventies Adam Driver. I feel like this guy had way too much charisma to be Adam Driver Scott fired. It was a duchovny. What are we talking?

Crew Chief Eric: Well, okay. Knowing Harry Hamlin, I kept calling him night rider ’cause didn’t he look like a ripoff? Hasselhoff? Oh yeah. Yeah. He definitely looked like

Steve & Izzy: hasselhoff off Temu dollar story. Hasselhoff. Yeah. Yeah. And the last one I wanna point out friend of the podcast, Anthony Delonis as gang member. Yeah. Uh, we think he was one of the four guys, you know, when they steal their car at the beginning.

Oh yeah. Like tossing the keys back and forth in front of the police station. Uhhuh. Yeah. That they just got bailed out if, yeah. Yeah, we’ll look about that. Same. But, uh, I think he was one of them. Oh, wow.

Crew Chief Eric: Okay.

Steve & Izzy: Again, Stacey Peterson, friend of the podcast, you might know him from Masters of the Universe as Blade, a Master Swordsman and Whip Master and Horse Rider choreographed and trained like every amazing sword and whip scene you’ve ever watched in the last 40 years.

Oh, wow. Yeah. He’s like taught [00:15:00] all the, uh, cat women how to use the whips and whatnot. Yeah, he’s amazing. Wow. That’s awesome. Yeah. We all gotta start somewhere. 1980 one’s King of the Mountain. We watched this guy on Tubi. Did you guys uh, watch it all on Voodoo or Tubi? Voodoo? It was free this month with ads.

Ooh, free on Tubi two with ads. And, uh, Fandango at home, whatever that is. Well, voodoo is Fandango now, but yeah. Oh, is it? Oh shit. Okay. There we go. That makes sense. But yeah, so yeah, as we mentioned before, we started off with some dizzying helicopter shots of Mulholland Drive and uh, we get some narration like, oh yeah, Mulholland Drive 23 miles from end and it’s the only place I felt safe and all the shit for sure.

I thought for a second this was gonna start out as like a zombie apocalypse movie. ’cause that’s all we’ve been watching for the podcast this year. That’s great. You got into town and everybody was still there and I’m like, the fuck is this, the population’s still alive.

Crew Chief Eric: Did they drop the bomb yet? No. So what I thought was when Lee Majors crossed into California, much can land at the end of last Chase Free California.

This is free [00:16:00] California now. This is part two of the last Chase picks up where the other one left off.

Steve & Izzy: Perfect. That makes sense because the police force isn’t exactly the, the wisest bit of people. This is like a, a few deputies in a small town kind of operations. Local police force trying to handle shit like this.

It’s like

Crew Chief Eric: Keystone cops. You think we should mess with them tonight? Yeah. Let’s go get ’em. 10 minutes of another bad helicopter scene. By the way, how was he able to hear them talking to him?

Steve & Izzy: Why he turned his lights off?

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah.

Steve & Izzy: Oh, uh, the helicopters have like a speaker on it. Oh, loudspeakers. Yeah. But yeah, but he’s too busy cranking up Renegade by Sticks.

Yeah, that’s right. Is up. He finally found me, which is a great song. Like that’s the song you should be listening to while you’re evading the police. Yeah. The most badass song of 1981. Definitely not 1976, like Shut up. They moved on to Mr. Roboto at this point. All right, I’ll blast it tomorrow out. Running the Cops for you, babe.

Steelers [00:17:00] fan. Anyway,

Crew Chief Eric: so this is the race. That Brad mentioned between the Trans Am the yellow one and the 3 56 Outlaw that Harry Hamlin’s driving. Steve is driving in this opening sequence and he gets arrested. But while all this is going down, we get our first glimpse of Dennis Hopper. Tell me he isn’t being a complete creeper.

Oh dude, he’s Dennis Hopper.

Executive Producer Tania: Isn’t that how he is?

Crew Chief Brad: Wait, wait. Was it Dennis Hopper or Tommy Chong? I couldn’t tell.

Steve & Izzy: Oh, well, fun fact, only one of those gentlemen is banned from the country of Australia. It’s not Tommy Chong.

Crew Chief Brad: I would’ve put my money on both of them being banned from Australia,

Steve & Izzy: banned for behaving badly while filming a movie in Australia

Crew Chief Brad: that all tracks for both of them.

Steve & Izzy: Uhhuh. Yeah. So have that opening raise. They get arrested or whatever. They have to get the $200 to bail ’em out or whatever. This, this is where they go out to their car and there’s another car parked, I guess, too close for [00:18:00] them to pull out or whatever. The friend buddy, he’s like, Hey man, could you just back your car up?

Oh yeah, let me get my keys. Oh, they start playing. Keep away like their 12 year olds or something. And then this is when Steve Hero of our movie, who has already been to jail for, you know, living life a quarter mile at a time though 23 miles at a stretch.

Crew Chief Eric: And as buddy points out. Three times in three months.

He’s on a first name basis with the cops there in la right?

Steve & Izzy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So tells the guy to jump in and like roll up the windows. Yeah. And then hot wires it and they drive off and I’m instantly the friend, I’m like, well, you just left your car there, so.

Crew Chief Eric: Alright.

Steve & Izzy: I wanna

Crew Chief Eric: ask Dan, what did he hot wire that car with?

Because it looked like he took a piece of chewing gum wrapper and then shoved it up in the dashboard.

Steve & Izzy: Yes, I have actually seen that in other movies where they take, I guess they use the chewing gum wrapper to hot wire cars. I don’t know.

Mountain Man Dan: Is that how you do it, man? Man. Dan in theory would work if it’s the older style switches where the wires are screwed into the back of the switch assembly and use the gum wrapper to jumper it.

The problem is as soon as you remove it, all that does is send the [00:19:00] signal out for a starter to spin. It doesn’t turn the power on for the ignition, so it would crank, but it technically wouldn’t start in real life.

Crew Chief Eric: Ah. But it’s a Mopar product, not a Chevy. So does that make a difference? It does not.

Mountain Man Dan: Okay.

Crew Chief Eric: Was it a roadrunner or was it a charger? I was trying to figure it out.

Steve & Izzy: I swear it was a Dukes of hazard car. Like it was like an orange charger.

Crew Chief Eric: Let me take a look and see. Oh, he’s got the database. Don’t forget. Oh shit. Oh, that’s right. There we go. I wanna say it was a Plymouth because of the silver plating on the lights in the back.

You get a really weird glimpse of it. To Steve’s point, the silhouette is definitely of a charger, but it’s like, was it a Plymouth or was it a Dodge?

Mountain Man Dan: So the car in front of the, uh, police station was a 1970 Dodge Super Bee.

Crew Chief Eric: Oh, even better. Even better. That’s a nice rare,

Steve & Izzy: but yeah, basically they, uh, pull off their, the stolen car to the studio to further incriminate more people.

Mm-hmm. Uh, in their grand theft auto. And then we cut to a lipsync session.

Executive Producer Tania: She was not lip syncing.

Crew Chief Eric: I wanted to know was she actually singing or

Executive Producer Tania: not? Yes. The credits said she was singing. So whether she was lip syncing in the [00:20:00] scene or not.

Steve & Izzy: Okay. The first 20 seconds, or though they were way off, like I don’t know if it was just wasn’t synced up or what,

Executive Producer Tania: whether the scene was real or not.

Her credits say she was singing the song.

Crew Chief Brad: To Steve’s point, I think whenever they panned to Roger. He was trying to sing the lyrics, like silently sing

Steve & Izzy: a different song.

Crew Chief Brad: A hundred percent. Uh, see, he was not even at the same concert. He was just singing something completely different

Steve & Izzy: when it was showing her singing.

At first it was really rough and then it kind of synced up. So I was like, okay, I can kind of see it. But I don’t know, I just assumed it was like an Ashley Simpson thing. Can we talk about the song, the whole damn song? Exactly. The entire song Against All Odds. The whole damn song. No, it it, it, it was a pretty catchy little song for 1977.

Don’t say the lyrics. I don’t know what she wants out of this song. Yeah. Does she wanna be a one night stand? Does she want it to be more than a one night stand?

Crew Chief Brad: She wants to be a dangerous stranger. Exactly.

Crew Chief Eric: Stranger danger.

Crew Chief Brad: But she’s coming. I bet she is. She’s coming back or whatever, whatever the line was.

Oh, she’s coming. [00:21:00] Yeah. Looking at Steve will do that.

Steve & Izzy: Wow.

Crew Chief Eric: The problem I had with the four and a half minutes that this took, because she sung the entire song, was every time she looked at somebody, she kept looking like more distraught because she kept looking at Steve, right? Like she was getting creeped out.

Steve & Izzy: Steve’s just creeper eye in her. It was cringey. And then after the song they’re like, Hey Steve, meet Tina. And they’re like, all in. I guess just that intense physical attraction of a, a beautiful stranger you just stumbled upon. They’re like hanging out. They’re at the studio, smoking and staring and drinking, and it’s.

Singing, and I thought it was gonna turn into Caligula

Crew Chief Brad: throughout the whole movie. There was a lot of substance abuse. I just wanna say that.

Crew Chief Eric: What? Right. Sex and rock and roll. It was the era.

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah. I I, I guess

Crew Chief Eric: this was the eighties, man. This was hairbands the seventies, it was the downward curve, but there

Steve & Izzy: was still sex, drugs, and rock and roll, I guess.

Yeah. This was shot in the late sixties, right? That’s what we’re talking about.

Crew Chief Brad: 1948.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. Before AIDS was invented [00:22:00] also, doesn’t somebody have a fiance? Oh, we’ll get to that. Don’t you worry. Yeah, we’ll get to that. And I never, never speak of that again. You know?

Crew Chief Eric: Okay. So he doesn’t have his car and he’s got a bummer ride.

So to your point, they get really chummy really fast. And Tina, which is Jackie from Too Close for comfort, whatever her real name is, Deborah decides to drive him home in Colombo’s, eo, hold on. Okay. I’m glad you went there because I almost turned the freaking movie off. I was like, I’m not watching this.

I’m not doing this. It’s not happening because as fans of our show know, when the Citro and DS is involved, it’s like, I could burn the air. I hate those things so bad. So if I was in his shoes, I would’ve dumped her ass immediately. Oh, you drive a Ciro and I’m gonna walk.

Steve & Izzy: But Eric, did you see that rack?

Crew Chief Eric: I’m not getting in that car.

It’s not happening. The rack on top of

Steve & Izzy: the car or her rack?

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah. Yeah. Either one. Yeah. Yeah.

Crew Chief Eric: Yes.

Crew Chief Brad: If you had said no, you would’ve missed the jack in the box.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. Good old Jack [00:23:00] Daniel’s in that glove compartment.

Crew Chief Brad: Jack in the glove box.

Steve & Izzy: Again, substance abuse, all over the place,

Crew Chief Eric: drinking,

Steve & Izzy: driving, moving.

Crew Chief Eric: No problem.

Steve & Izzy: Yep. And I do like that she drives them to her place. Right. Like instantly. I’m like, all right, good for you, girl. Yeah. And there’s like nothing on the walls, there’s no pictures, no nothing. It’s always is like you, uh, you just move in. No, you move out. No, this is just how I live. You know? Where cereal kill people.

Here help me lay down this, uh, tarp. And, uh, do you like Huey Lewis in the news?

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah. What, what was, what was her line? It was, she said, I’m waiting for my furniture. And he said, oh, when are you gonna get it? And she said, well, my furniture’s waiting for my money.

Steve & Izzy: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Classy. So then’s 6:00 AM and everybody’s starting to sober up.

Remember like, oh yeah, shit, I’m supposed to be at work in 20 minutes. And then Steve comes back to the studio, I guess do his victory lap. And this is where we’re introduced to his girlfriend, Iris. Oh, I’m sorry, fiancee Iris. Little Blanc Hick. We’re only gonna see in this scene Uhhuh [00:24:00] Uhhuh could have been completely cut out from the film.

Yeah. And he’s playing, you know, Atari video games as is tradition at the time. It’s just one of those things like, yeah, he’s sitting there playing and talking about like, Hey, so yeah, you, you guys got a date set, blah, blah, blah. He is like, yes. Something like that. I don’t know. We’re probably gonna move in together anyway.

Cut to some reckless driving by Dennis Hopper, Uhhuh and Steve’s like, so Dennis Hopper’s gonna kill all of them, right? Right. Serial killer. Yes. It’s like, go. But we find out, not only is Dennis Hopper, Al, he’s a mechanic, but so is uh, Steve and Grizzly Adams and I. Guess big bomb this time. I did not know they were mechanics.

Yeah, I thought they all just hung out at this shop doing shop things. Yeah. Out front it was like pro performance mechanics or something like that too. It very easily could have been grant touring Motorsport or something like that. So it’s like, oh yeah, this is a garage where, you know, these guys fix their vehicles for races.

They work on Porsches except for the one guy that

Crew Chief Eric: has a Chevy. Yeah. Well, you know,

Steve & Izzy: you know expensive it is to rent that [00:25:00] many Porsches for a film shoot.

Crew Chief Eric: He’s the new guy. Did you see the sign in the background behind the Corvette? Like when it was in the shop? It says like the small, fast and expensive repair shop or something like that.

It was like a big poster behind the car. I thought it was really kind of ironic, huh? This is where there’s a scene where the other guy, maybe it’s Big Tom or whatever the guy’s name is, that we can’t identify who’s pushing that nine 11 from behind the race car. And Dennis Hopper’s just standing there talking to him

Crew Chief Brad: and smoking a cigarette,

Crew Chief Eric: walking alongside him, making the old man do all the work and he is just huffing and trying to push that car into the shop and all this kinda thing.

I wrote down this line as I do, ’cause I take copious notes and he goes, you know what’s worse than a car that won’t run? Holding up a dead body?

Steve & Izzy: Yeah.

Crew Chief Eric: And you’re like, what?

Steve & Izzy: That’s some

Crew Chief Brad: Dennis Hopper improv right there. I guarantee it. I thought before that he said, you know what’s worse than a car that won’t run is pushing a car that won’t run.

Crew Chief Eric: But then he says, holding up a dead body.

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah.

Crew Chief Eric: And then holding up a dead body. Yeah. Right after that. Yeah.

Steve & Izzy: The pile of goo that used to be your [00:26:00] friend, he’s like, starts going to like a Rambo rant or something. Well, the bandana didn’t help either. Nothing is over. Never

Crew Chief Brad: Tommy Chong.

Steve & Izzy: Nothing is over, man. But then he is like, oh, hey Steve.

Some uh, some chick came by looking for you. Yeah. What’d you tell her? Told her you got a small dick. Like, yeah, that’s a, that’s a coworker brand. That sounds

Crew Chief Eric: right.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. Yeah. That checks out. It’s like, thanks, bro.

Crew Chief Eric: The dialogue was horrendous.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah, absolutely. I feel like half of it might have been improv, just kinda like trying to shoot the shit or whatever, but then they’re like, oh wait, these guys can’t improv.

Just act like you guys have been working together for years. What’s working man? You gotta, we gotta leave it in though. We gotta make it a full 90 minutes. 20 takes and that was the best one. And it was about this time I, I was like, okay. Kind of unlikeable lead character. Yeah. Cheating around. Has a job as a mechanic, you know, a bike, whatever this is silver Dream racer, isn’t it?

I wonder if this is gonna have a similar ending, spoilers. It kind of does. Mm Oh you guys. Silver Dream racer. [00:27:00] You ever like just get so frustrated with the movie you like you’re trying to call it Bluff? Like, Hey, like if this movie had any balls, it would do this, but it doesn’t. I was doing that during, so I was heckling this movie and it’s like everybody in this is.

Been dead for years. Nobody cares. You hear that? Harry Hamlin, he’s still alive. Silver Dream racer. Called My Bluff. And now I cannot heckle terrible movies like this because they just might call my Bluff Theater. So yeah, that night Steve’s driving with Tina. I don’t know, GI Giving Exposition or whatever exposition darling.

It has to go somewhere, right? And he is like, you gotta ride the edge if you want to win and blah, blah blah. And I’m just like Canyon inside and out. I’m only free when I’m on the canyon. By the way, you met Cal earlier, right? That guy that said a small dick. Yeah, he bought it like 15 years ago and they had to completely rebuild him and now he’s too scared to ride.

Fierce. Catch you. I’m, I’m picturing Cal’s like the $6 million man or something like being pieced together. We made him better, faster, stronger, higher. He’s the

Crew Chief Eric: six Budweiser man. Steve, even as a car [00:28:00] guy, I was throwing up a little bit in the back of my throat this entire time. I was like, this is so bad.

Yeah, this is so cringey. However. Credit where credit is due. I didn’t take any issue with the sound effects with the Porsche. It was actually correct. Oh, okay. Oh, thank God. That was gonna be my next question. Oh, thank

Steve & Izzy: you. Thank you. I’m glad they matched up. I took issue with other cars though, but not with the Porsche.

It’s all good. Mount Mandan is our, is our resident dragster. Is that how you feel when you race for pink slips? Is it just like that rush that makes it worth living or are you more like a practical?

Mountain Man Dan: I’ve never raced for pink slip, so I can’t really give.

Steve & Izzy: Ta Tanya, are you a pinking? Slipper? No. You ever throw on those ping slippers?

I was gonna say, Steve, aren’t you the one who uh, ended up with a car that you had to take the front seat out of to drive to help out a friend? Well, yeah, but racing sounds like the plot to Police Academy too. We’re not the ones living at the edge, so we have no frame of reference. Right. To personify with the lead character of this movie then.

Right. Brad has some drag racing experience ever [00:29:00] race for, oh, Brad. Oh my

Crew Chief Eric: god. Brad. Race for Pinks. Brad,

Crew Chief Brad: I’ve never raced for Pinks List, but I have raced for money a hundred bucks. That and more. It’s always exciting until you have to hand over the money you just lost.

Crew Chief Eric: I was gonna say, is it like what Clarkson says?

Does it give you the fizz?

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah. Yeah. That’s what it does.

Steve & Izzy: Well, Brad, if it’s any consolation, whoever won that money from you, just put it right back into their car immediately after. After a thousand percent.

Crew Chief Brad: No, they put it into the next person’s car. Oh.

Steve & Izzy: So yeah. So yeah, they’re driving along and then, uh, that’s right.

His buddy that like pulled along and was like, Hey, you wanna a race? Yeah. Winter takes the girl. And I’m expecting Tina to be like, what the fuck are you talking about? But no, she’s like, yeah, we gets the

Crew Chief Eric: girl. What? Then he starts howling like Burges Meredith did in the last movie. And you’re like, what the hell is happening here?

I expect him to be racing. And he is

Steve & Izzy: like, oh, that’s right baby. Just like old times. Oh yeah. I’m just gonna slide it in real quick. What Burgess please. Oh. [00:30:00] But yeah, they race and then, uh, they get hot dogs at that, uh, train car di whoa, whoa,

Crew Chief Eric: whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, wait. Before we’d slip into the hot dog, he turns to her and he goes, hit that drop.

He goes, you feel that vibration? Where is this going? This is like danger in a manifold.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah.

Crew Chief Eric: His

Steve & Izzy: muffler fell off. He’s like, you feel that?

Crew Chief Eric: What?

Steve & Izzy: Whoa. The whole car runs over its own buffer.

Crew Chief Eric: It was really random. It does come back later as we come to find out. It was, it had no point to the story, but it was just like we had to add that in, like it really mattered at all.

Again, maybe some ad-libbing there, but I just thought it was funny and she’s like, no, I don’t know what you’re talking

Executive Producer Tania: about. Just keep driving me.

Crew Chief Eric: And then they had that diner, they’re getting hot dogs or whatever

Executive Producer Tania: because it was all about his journey into realizing he doesn’t need to be the king of the mountain anymore.

Steve & Izzy: Is that what this movie’s about? But he wasn’t the king yet. I mean, we find out the third person in the trio, Roger the roommates or whatever. He was the driver too. But he doesn’t do it anymore. ’cause I don’t know, maybe he’s the smart one. He is the producer. Yeah. Yeah. He’s a music producer of [00:31:00] his. Friends.

But yeah, we get Steve talking about, oh yeah, I could drive that course blindfolded and I’m waiting for, oh God, is this gonna be the finale?

Crew Chief Eric: Mm-hmm.

Steve & Izzy: He’s gonna have to drive it blind. Like, I don’t know, Dennis Hopper throw salt in his eyes or something. Ah.

Crew Chief Eric: I feel that tone, that whole diner scene was cringey, felt forced.

The acting was just, it was bad.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. I’ll say it. Just about every scene in this movie is kind of cringey. ’cause they’re not great actors. You know what I mean? I mean, de Dennis Hopper’s, Dennis Hopper, you know what you’re getting with him. But like Harry Hamlet, Steve Buddy, and Roger. It’s kind of just like Tom, Dick and Harry, right?

You’re like, whatever. Tina’s kind, meh. She’s not like really a character, it seems like. Just kind of there. Yeah. What about, uh, Iris, and where is she the rest of the movie? Maybe she’s serving the hotdog, I assume she’s going back to high school, right. God, would that be outta place in this movie?

Mountain Man Dan: Not really, no.

And after the diner scene, the following day is when he drives back up? Mm-hmm. Walked that corner where he felt the vibration or whatever. He’s looking for his muffler. Yeah. [00:32:00] In all honestly, it was like a lot of times we go to tracks, do a track, walk you out there and you look for the little stuff that you don’t necessarily feel in the car.

So he was trying to see something different. ’cause something felt different. So it made sense for me when he went out to do that. At the moment in the scene, I’m like, what the hell is he talking about? A vibration. Yeah.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. So I’m with you there. Having done many track walks myself, I immediately identified with that and everybody else is going, what the hell is he doing?

Why is he squatting down and looking the asphalt and all that kinda stuff. For me as a track guy, I got that. To your point, it was completely out of sequence with the movie. Like again, another scene that you could have just cut out. You wouldn’t have lost anything. You wouldn’t have gained anything by leaving it in either.

So it is what it is. But I identified with it. I see that.

Mountain Man Dan: I think it does on though, because how that’s around the turn where he decides he’s letting No.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. Yeah. We’ll get to that. Don’t spoil it. Don’t spoil it.

Mountain Man Dan: Yeah.

Steve & Izzy: My whole thing with that whole scene where he was walking that road or whatever, is like, does nobody use mole hull and drive?

Crew Chief Brad: Nope. Because he’s

Steve & Izzy: out there for like a solid three minutes, no cuts, whatever. And I’m like, okay, well obviously they got the street shut down the whole night when they’re doing the races [00:33:00] and stuff. I’m like, nobody’s getting home through Mulholland Drive. High atop the mall home and view shelf like nobody uses that road.

Have you been on it? Oh yeah. I mean, it’s sort of the road

Crew Chief Eric: to nowhere. It is a canyon road,

Steve & Izzy: the road

Crew Chief Eric: to my mansion, friend. To that end, how many cars should be on that road at the end of the day? Right. Not too, too

Steve & Izzy: many. I mean, I mean it’s like early morning, like maybe, I’m assuming it’s like the shortcut to get to work for some people.

Like, you know, avoiding the five or the 4 0 5 or whatever, two 10.

Crew Chief Eric: There was that Lincoln that came by and sort of honked at him as he was squatted down looking at the road. So somebody was there.

Steve & Izzy: Oh one? Yeah. Okay. Well yeah, go back to Cal the garage. It’s like talking with Steve or whatever and uh, he is like, Hey, I felt something last night.

Like, yeah, I’ll tell you what you felt. You felt fear. It’s that fear creeping up in you, man, your car’s like a runaway knife and the thrill.

Crew Chief Eric: It’s a thrill maker, man. Okay. Okay. This was the beginning of some of the most nonsensical dialogue from Dennis Hopper. The rest of the movie, it just sets the tone for every time he’s in scene and I’m just like, oh, did they just [00:34:00] let him loose?

They let him off the leash and does whatever he wants.

Mountain Man Dan: It seemed like he didn’t have a script through the whole movie in my

Crew Chief Eric: life, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He is Dennis Hopper. He must have been high because I was like, dialogue makes no sense whatsoever. It’s completely non-sequitur. It’s like

Mountain Man Dan: what?

I mean it’s legit. He probably was fucked up. ’cause he is drinking beers and drinking whiskey simultaneously, like chasing the, the whiskey with beer. So,

Steve & Izzy: well, I mean, he’s on the job so he, he gotta say semi sober anyway, so I always try and then like, I dunno, somebody says like, watch out for him and I swear they said, fucking your ass or whatever.

Or did I, there’s some random stuff thrown into the dialogue for sure. Yeah. ’cause then it was like rated pg, but I swear it was like, you know, you gotta

Crew Chief Eric: watch out for him. Fucking your ass ridiculous. So then I wrote down sandwiches and music time. That’s what comes next.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. Oh God. So yeah, we get to the apartment where the, the Holy Trinity live lives, you know, Steve Buddy and, uh, Roger

Crew Chief Eric: This the cast of Seinfeld.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah, yeah, exactly. George, Jerry and Kramer. Yeah. Except Jerry’s balls deep in [00:35:00] Julia Louise Dreyfus while, uh, while George and Cosmo are, uh, making giant sandwiches and like teasing each other with them. Oh, these guys are in love. Yeah. I, I was waiting for that to be the hookup at the end. Honestly. Like, like I just can’t quit you, Roger.

You can have all of my sandwich. It’s so weird. Screechy. And then, oh yeah, this is where Izzy pointed out, is that a nipple pillow on their couch? It is Pillow. Yes it is. Yes, it’s,

Mountain Man Dan: and there was a couple mannequin off on the side earlier too. Yep. This so reminds me of how I lived my early years of the military.

Like almost no furniture, just a beer cooler there with beer in it regularly. Sandwich meats.

Steve & Izzy: Hey, you have the giant construction spool is like a table Uhhuh, couple milk crates as seats. Yeah. He’s got that now.

Crew Chief Eric: So Yes. I mean,

Steve & Izzy: yeah. But they’re not the quality they used to be. That’s right. And then, yeah, we got a nice little, uh, improv Romeo and Julia se Julia session from, uh, fucking Buddy and Roger.

That’s like at the piano, like Romeo and Julie. [00:36:00]

Crew Chief Eric: I was waiting for it to either go sort of Bohemian Rhapsody or Sherry Lewis was gonna show up with the little lamb chop puppet. You know, it was gonna go in one of these two directions.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. So they’re just annoying enough to cock block Steve and uh, so yeah.

Then what happens? We head back to the mountain, Steve and Tina start going into their backstories as we’re down skip cut to night racing. Yep.

Crew Chief Eric: So now Steve in his 3 56 outlaw goes against the Sunburst Magnum pi, the yellow 3 0 8 Ferrari. That’s why I was hoping they would play the theme song. Right. So we gotta capture some of that Magnum pi goodness in the movie too.

But that race was pathetic. What he crashes like in the third turn or something like that, he’s like off in the weeds. Like that’s the end of it.

Steve & Izzy: Well, what do you mean? That was pathetic. That son of a bitch took my medal, says Cal Uhhuh, which is like, wait, he beat his record time at King of the Mountain or on Mulholland Drive, I guess.

Is that what he was crying about?

Crew Chief Eric: By the only person that was [00:37:00] timing it, which was Cal. ’cause who’s keeping track of this stuff, right? I mean, like. Whatever. Yeah.

Steve & Izzy: So then we go back to the studio and, uh, Roger, he’s, uh, he’s pitching in his songs or whatever to, uh, radio executive, uh, Seymour Castle. Barry Tanner.

That’s right. Tanner. He’s like, Hey, yeah, this song’s great. I’d like to, uh, buy it from you for, uh, the Sack Cadillac Blue, and like mm-hmm. Well, no, no, it’s, it’s, it’s for my songwriter buddy. And you know, you have to, you like sign him. It’s not just for the song. And he is like, look, yeah buddy. He’s not a songwriter until I sell him.

So you do a couple songs or whatever and then, uh, you know, we see from there and then he is like, don’t worry, you didn’t sell him out. You bought yourself in. Mm-hmm. I’m like, is that supposed to make me feel better? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Also like, oh my God, this guy’s double speak is like infuriating and so accurate that like, this guy’s got real talent.

This is a deal maker. This is a, this is a hit on our hands, but also he’s not really that good, so I’m just gonna buy this for nothing. Scumbag, that’s what he was. Oh yeah. Meanwhile, the, uh, the rest of the gang are, [00:38:00] uh, just waiting and drinking and stacking up lots and lots of beers at the Hollywood Bowl.

Yeah. And they have an empty stadium apparently to play around with. Is that just open access, like all hours? There’s not a concert. No, babe. They’re playing a gig, but nobody showed up. That’s the real thing. I think it’s b and not a in this case, but, uh, that night Roger, uh, shows up the apartment, all shit facing drunk and knocking on the door is like Steve did the door.

And then this is where we get the sexy Elvira neighbors stepping out like, Hey, will you shut the

Song: fuck up down there. I’m trying to sleep.

Crew Chief Eric: So much more clarity on this scene now. Thank you for filling in that gap. I don’t think I would’ve slept. Well, not knowing, because she was

Steve & Izzy: yelling down like an angry New Yorker or something.

Right. And so you’re expecting it to be like, you know, old lady, like Hurler in her hair or some shit. But then it’s like, oh, my

Crew Chief Eric: hot redhead.

Steve & Izzy: Maybe she’s looking for some action. I don’t know why else you would walk out in that outfit. I was thinking she was the Lady of the

Crew Chief Eric: Night. I was like, oh,

Steve & Izzy: I mean, they do live in that neighborhood.

And

Crew Chief Eric: [00:39:00] Tina said earlier, oh, this is Valentino’s old place, like a Playboy mansion kind of thing. And then it was like something about her either working at night or she sleeps at night or something like that. I was like, there was something reference to the neighbor wearing sunglasses at night. Definitely a thousand percent.

So I was like, whatever. Okay. I just let it. Slide. But now again, with the lens of Elvira, this makes way more sense.

Mountain Man Dan: Well, the stands without known as El Elvira, like your thought, like the Lady of the Night type thing. I was like, wait, is, isn’t this how porno movies start?

Steve & Izzy: Yeah, it did have that vibe. It really did.

Hello? I hear you have problem with pipes. Here’s your hot and spice sassy pizza. Do you order the large Italian? Sorry. So then Steve eventually answers the door and Roger’s like, let’s go for a drive, man. No. What’s, what’s wrong? What’s going on? Let’s go for a drive. Let’s go for a drive. And I’m like, just fucking tell him.

So they go for a drive musical interlude, and he doesn’t tell him. So then the next morning, you know, buddies, there it is, uh, piano singing his new song or whatever. And he almost had to do the whole damn four minutes of that one too. Yep. Steven, Roger kind of show up and [00:40:00] wait it out. And then, uh, he’s like, yeah, talk to the record exec.

And he is like, yeah, I figured he didn’t call immediately. He said he is gonna pass. Like, no, no. He wants you to be a songwriter, but it’s gonna be covered by other bands. But yeah, no, I heard that’s song fun. That’s for. That’s our song. Yeah. But you know, this is how you like get in man. And then when those are hits, they come to you for more hits.

But in fact you get in with my friends. Yeah. It’s just a whole awkward conversation. ’cause it’s like, wait, I thought it was a different situation. Maybe I just don’t understand. The music industry probably has a lot to do with it. You don’t understand friends, Steve. That’s the problem. This is how friends talk to each other.

True. That’s true. I don’t have friends. You’ve never had a man lover. Men lovers are very emotional creatures. Where is this going? These guys are lovers. Yeah, there’s a conversation between man, lover to man lover and man lover. ’cause there’s three of ’em there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tanya, you can back me up on this, right?

Men are very emotional creatures when they’re your lovers.

Executive Producer Tania: Somebody ask me a question,

sorry, stop listening. A couple minutes ago,

Steve & Izzy: hot pod right here. [00:41:00] Hot pod. I’m gonna take that as a yes and let’s keep going. No further questions. The prosecution rests. Alright. Well luckily, God damnit, we’ve had zero charisma for like 30 seconds, so we cut to back to the garage and Cal is just losing his shit.

He is, uh, going around, oh, he beat my record man, and fucking he stole my medal. Blah, blah, blah. Steve, you bitch ass, you broke my record. But you’re a coward. You don’t know how to drive. Then Grizzly Adams like, has to come in and like break up their fight. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait. This is my favorite part. This is

Crew Chief Eric: the breaker part where the guy who looks like, oh, geez.

Looks like Larry from the Three Stooges shows up Dennis Hopper’s on the grinder with a piece of like angle iron doing nothing, and he taps him on the shoulder. He is like, man, I’m looking for a breaker bar. And then he starts going nuts and he’s trying to pick a fight. And that’s when Barry Gibb comes in and tries to break it up.

Steve & Izzy: Mm-hmm.

Crew Chief Eric: And I wrote down the dialogue and I put hyphens in for every pause that Dennis Hopper used because I thought it was intriguing. He says, and I quote, he’s drunk with his greed of his [00:42:00] youth. Speed. Stop rhyming. You know what that means? Well, I’m not crazy, man. Yeah. And I put, are you sure? Yeah. Holy shit.

Like that was the dialogue in sequence again, they just let him off the hook and let him do whatever he want. Yeah, because nobody wrote that. There’s no way anybody wrote that.

Steve & Izzy: No, no, no. That’s spur of the moment, man. That’s three lines of Coke in,

Crew Chief Eric: isn’t that how he is in every movie? Mm-hmm. Do you guys remember that commercial from when we were kids?

I think it was like the nineties and Dennis Hopper. Yes. It was like a shoe commercial. And he’s like, it’s his footprint, man. It’s his footprint. Right. Do you guys remember that? Yes.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah, but it wasn’t a Jordan shoe. It was like, was it Shaq or something?

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, something like that. Right? You Google it. It was unreal.

Dennis. I’ve always associated him with that. It’s his footprint, man. His

Steve & Izzy: footprint, man. Bruce Smith, Nike. Oh yeah, there. Bruce Smith, the NFL player, and Michael Irvin. I don’t recognize Dallas Cowboys. He apparently did a whole. Set of them. Okay. Yeah. So it was like a Nike thing or [00:43:00] whatever? Yeah, it was for Nike.

I don’t know. We were talking, he’s no Mars Blackman. That’s all I’m saying. Recently on the pod, we were actually talking about old commercials and remembering Tommy Vu. Oh

Crew Chief Eric: yeah.

Steve & Izzy: Why so poor? Why you not rich like me? And before anybody thinks that’s racist, guys, pulp the commercial on YouTube and tell me I did just do what he did on Tommy Vu.

All right, well, enough of that, we gotta cut to the, uh, record exec party at the music studio or whatever the hell’s going on, I guess the celebration party for signing a song or whatever’s going on. And my next question is, where’s the fiance? She’s done, dude. Oh, okay. Did she leave? Did they have a, a deleted scene where they broke it?

No. Okay. I think that was the breakup scene. I was so confused for a second.

Mountain Man Dan: Grabbed her stuff and left early on in the movie. I thought that was her ending. But they were talking about setting a date or whatever. Eh,

Steve & Izzy: Steve, she had to go back to her home planet. She pulled a Poochie.

Executive Producer Tania: She had to pull a Poochie.

No, I was really confused for a second. ’cause I thought he said, where’s the Beyonce? What? Did [00:44:00] I miss something in this movie?

Crew Chief Eric: You were confused. You thought it was Valerian. That space movie where she dances and transforms. Yeah. Yeah.

Steve & Izzy: Oh, valerian In the City of a Thousand Planets. I like that movie. Speaking of Zero Charisma.

Oh my God, that movie has zero. That could have been a cool movie, but not one character in it is interesting in the least bit. I kinda like Rihanna. You like the robot, we get it. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. So then, uh, I don’t know, we see Tina being introduced to Titus’s mom from the, uh, the series, Titus and the Trio’s all together.

They’re having a good time and they’re like. They instantly see each other like, Hey man, we should go to the Hill, Mulholland Drive. And I’m like, what? What? What the fuck are we talking about? You’re at a record party with blow as far as the eye can see, and you’re like, yeah, let’s get up on the hill and, I don’t know, drink and drive Uhhuh.

Yeah, that’s addiction my friend. Get

Crew Chief Eric: help. We cut to a completely useless scene of Harry Hamlin arguing with a parking attendant of him. What?

Executive Producer Tania: That scene,

Crew Chief Eric: you don’t remember that? So Buddy leaves and goes to the mountain, right? He takes his [00:45:00] Mustang and he takes off and he heads up to the mountain. Steve, Harry Hamlin realizes that Buddy left.

And he’s like, oh my God, where did he go? He goes outside and he’s arguing with a parking attendant about moving. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That car out of the way. But Eric, why did Buddy leave? Oh, because he feels like he’s getting ripped

Steve & Izzy: off. Oh, ’cause he is. ’cause he meets Tanner and Tanner’s like, oh, hey, you’re buddy.

All right. I’m not gonna make this mistake twice, because he thought Steve was buddy earlier. ’cause they, yeah. Look like they’re twin brothers because of the pers and he basically spills the beans into like, oh yeah, thanks for selling your four songs. So the Cadillac Blue can do them. And he is like, wait, what are you talking about?

Like, oh, Roger, you didn’t tell him. Oh, anyway, it’s gonna be great. You’re gonna do great things in this thing. I gotta go, I gotta get some blow. And then your buddy’s like, oh, you, you fucking lied to me, man. I’m gonna go to the hill and kill myself. And, and then, yeah, then we get the parking attendancy where he is like, yo, you could just move the car.

Right. Fucking hell. Mm-hmm. Again, no one’s likable this movie, there’s no redeemable characters at all. Okay. So then we cut to the hill and Cal’s already up there, as he always is. I assume when he is not at the garage, just screaming at [00:46:00] children, teenagers or whatever. Basically like, oh man, this is bullshit.

This we used to be cool, man, you, you, no one’s gonna fucking challenge me. I need to get my record back, man. Did you hear what he said? No. Just

Crew Chief Eric: before buddy shows up, he goes, mothers. That’s what we used to call you mothers. Oh yeah. Stay at home mom. What?

Steve & Izzy: I’m glad you wrote half the stuff down. ’cause Yeah, it’s just ridiculous shit.

I just kinda zone out when he starts ranting. I’m like, like, oh no, it’s my uncle at the reunion again. Yeah. Yeah. We call him mothers. Call ’em mothers. You gotta say mothers. Mothers wanna go. Samuel Jackson. They’re just mothers. And then he, but he shows up. He is like, I’ll raise your ass. And of course Cal’s like, I don’t know man.

You don’t seem in the right head space. Then Cal commences to racing him in a truck. And I’m like, hold on a sec. Yep. It wasn’t he fixing up that other car. Oh, we gotta save that for the finale. The

Crew Chief Eric: Corvette. Yeah. So another bow tie. So Dan, correct me if I’m wrong, that’s the same pickup that was used in the Expendables, right?

As Barney [00:47:00] Ross’s truck? Yeah, it’s the same truck.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. Yeah. It looked like like a 53 or something like that. Yeah, it was with

Crew Chief Eric: the round headlights and that grill. And I immediately was like, Ooh, if that was painted, sat in black. We got

Mountain Man Dan: the Expendables truck. We’re good. I was able to check it. It’s a 56 F 100 in this and the expendables is a 55.

Ah, I knew they were the same truck. See, I knew they were the same

Steve & Izzy: truck. There you go. All right. And that sweet little gear shift. Oh please. Oh man. And then of course Steve shows up like 10 seconds too late and is like, Hey, his buddy up here. Like, oh, you just missed him, man. And so then Steve’s chasing behind him or whatever and they start trading pain a little bit.

Crew Chief Eric: This has to be the single worst driving sequence in the entire film.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah, it was that night. It was very close. Camera shots and stuff. Just kinda like thrown together and like pan back and show the race. Speed it up if you have to.

Crew Chief Eric: I did have like a moment though when Buddy leans out the window and like they can hear each other.

They’re going down MOHO and 70, 80 miles an hour. He’s like sit on it and [00:48:00] rotate. Sit on it. Yeah. What are you talking about? Like what is going on here

Steve & Izzy: and Cal? He had like a little uh, spotlight or whatever. He was like flashing over at him every once in a while. Right. Police light. Yeah. Good stuff. You know buddy.

He’s going a little too fast. How do we know? Because Steve says so when he is following behind. Takes that turn and right into a fucking gas line. Boo

Crew Chief Eric: crash. Boom. Bang. Little buddy. Barbecue.

Steve & Izzy: No, no, no.

Crew Chief Eric: So hear me out for a second. You said before Steve was 10 seconds behind and he had a one of the most horrific takeoffs. If he couldn’t find it, he, he grounded out like it was horrible. So let’s just say he’s 20 seconds behind. He’s got this record on the mountain and he can’t catch a pickup truck.

And a guy that’s drunk in a, in a Mustang.

Steve & Izzy: Oh no. He caught up. He was just behind him like watching or something. I don’t know.

Crew Chief Eric: But there was a point though where he fell way back too. Like, again, this is where I say the driving sequence, it was awful. The worst driving scene

Mountain Man Dan: in the whole movie. Yeah. When they’re [00:49:00] coming down, Cal being as drunk as he was driving the truck is one thing.

Apparently he had enough ability to mess with the spotlight. He had to keep blinding.

Crew Chief Eric: Mm-hmm. In the

Mountain Man Dan: car while doing it. While he is driving. I’m like, this dude’s a phenomenal driver if he can do that. Mm-hmm. He’s phenomenal at

Crew Chief Eric: something, that’s for sure. He’s high functioning.

Crew Chief Brad: He’s a guy man. During the, the night race with Buddy and Cal, did anybody look at Buddy’s dash and see all the duct tape?

Crew Chief Eric: I noticed that too. That

Crew Chief Brad: was holding, basically holding the entire car together was a roll of duct tape. Yeah. That’s how

Steve & Izzy: you know it’s a real race car

Crew Chief Brad: because all of Eric’s cars use duct tape. Yeah. Actually zip ties

Crew Chief Eric: Gorilla Tape. Strong man. It’s got the

Crew Chief Brad: speed holes punched in them. Eric’s race cars have copper pipe and zip ties.

Crew Chief Eric: A hundred percent. A hundred percent. And

Crew Chief Brad: some wood in there too, somewhere. It’s not a Tesla.

Crew Chief Eric: It’s not a Tesla.

Steve & Izzy: Uh, so buddies did, and then I ran down to Steve just starts. Whacking the hill with a giant stick that he found. Uhhuh and screaming buddy. [00:50:00] Yeah. He is just whacking a stick. Yeah. So then, then we cut to Cal.

He’s uh, fixing his car at the garage as he does when he’s not on the hill. Steve, he comes into work ready to go and uh, the boss comes out, you know, grizzly Adams. He is like, Hey man, why don’t you just like take the day off? And he is like, I need this man. I need to. I just need to do something. Alright, cool.

And then, yeah, Rick the boss or whatever, shows him a picture from like 15 years ago being like, yeah man, I used to go up on the hill too. Cow’s fucking crazy. You don’t need that shit Set. Barry Gibb. And I’m like, yeah, same voice. Finally, maybe Grizzly Adams is the real hero over this movie. Why

Crew Chief Eric: did we pan in after that to a picture of Gomer Pile from like the 1950s?

What was that picture? Was that him? Uh, I think that was, uh, grizzly Adams 15

Steve & Izzy: years ago. It was a way before 15 years ago. Yeah. Well maybe he said 50. I don’t know.

Mountain Man Dan: So the picture they zoomed in on, so it had a picture of Rick, which was the shop owner, and then it zoomed in on Cal. It wasn’t going. Oh, okay. So cow.

Okay, okay.

Crew Chief Eric: Oh

Steve & Izzy: [00:51:00] yeah, that makes sense.

Crew Chief Eric: I was like, what are we zooming in on? I didn’t under, I was like, that doesn’t look like him. Okay. Well, you

Steve & Izzy: know. Steve, after a day of work, he goes to see Tina. She’s getting all dolled up and uh, like going to the Roxy, like obviously she’s hanging out with the record executive stuff now.

’cause you know, she’s gonna get hers. And, uh, they have, I’d like to call it a fight, but it’s more of like, so you’re just gonna hang out with this guy? And she’s like, well, yeah, because are we even a thing? Don’t you have a fiance? I was waiting for her to pull that one out and like, bring that back into the movie.

Nope,

Crew Chief Eric: nope, no. None of that. No. And she says to him too, during this quote unquote fight, which was pretty tame, she’s like, back and forth and back and forth. Where is that gonna take you? And he’s

Steve & Izzy: like,

Crew Chief Brad: nowhere.

Steve & Izzy: That’s it. It’s the most fast in furious line of the entire movie. Damn. Apparently. Where is it gonna get you?

No, uh, yeah, I don’t know. The limousine comes to like, pick her up is our

Crew Chief Eric: unidentified guy,

Steve & Izzy: the chauffeur. Oh, big Tom or whatever? No, no, no, no. That guy was listed as chauffeur and the IMDV credits or whatever. Oh, okay, okay. Because he was really awkward. Yeah. He [00:52:00] kinda looked like, uh, shit. The guy from, uh, WKRP in Cincinnati a little bit, I kept thinking James Spader for blacklist a little bit like, you know Yeah.

Oh yeah, the rose glasses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like he was definitely in witness protection, it looked like. And then the goodbye kiss, we have

Crew Chief Eric: the goodbye kiss,

Steve & Izzy: right? Yeah. The goodbye kiss. And I’m like, wait, does this scene warrant a goodbye kiss? No, not really. Yeah, they, they say goodbye like, oh yeah, take it easy.

Like, Hey, that feels like a commitment. He, he, he, are you gonna be here when I get back? You mean if you get back? So then we go to the mountain, as we always do every night, forever. They’re like, Hey Steve, there’s this guy from Downey who wants to race. Nah, I’m good. And I’m like, cool, then why the fuck are you there?

He’s

Crew Chief Eric: waiting for cow. That’s what he’s waiting for. Oh, was he? Oh, okay. Yeah, he’s waiting for Cal. He’s waiting to see if he’s gonna show up and then, and he doesn’t until morning as we come to find out. But I do wanna pull a thread here. Dan, the guy that challenges Steve shows up in a two 40 Z. Two 80 Z depending on, you know what it was.

Same body [00:53:00] style. Did that sound like a straight six to you? I don’t recall. ’cause it’s been like a month since I watched the movie. Dude. It loped, like it had a LS in it. That was engine swapped. It’s like, what is up with the Z car? It looked cool though. I, I liked it. I would’ve liked to seen that race. I think that would’ve been interesting.

But E Eric, what does that sound like? Dan could do a better impression of a Chevy V eight than I can.

Steve & Izzy: Oh, no, I need you to do it. Uh, we, we need the expert car talk style. We,

Crew Chief Eric: we need the, uh, the, the movie Foley expert. Oh yeah. You need that sitting there loping.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. But yeah, like I said, the morning rolls around and Cal pulls up. Steve realizing he doesn’t need any of this bullshit, just drives away. Back home. Uhhuh roll credits, guys. What do we think? No, no. That’s not what happens at all. We don’t race. I yelled out.

Crew Chief Eric: And so we race at dawn

Steve & Izzy: because they’re racing their feelings. Oh God. [00:54:00] Oh, it’s an allegory. Yeah. And as they’re, uh, they’re racing along. Cal starts running. Time is speed. Speed is time.

Crew Chief Eric: I wrote that down too.

Steve & Izzy: I am the

Crew Chief Eric: road queen. The road the road is a construct. It’s made of people,

Steve & Izzy: whatever the fuck he’s yelling at.

Crew Chief Eric: Right? Oh, but then he yells.

’cause you’re talking about the curse words earlier. They’re going at it and he goes, we’re faster than shit, man. Yeah. What?

Steve & Izzy: I don’t know. I’ve had some fast shit. Somebody’s obviously never eaten at the discount buffet in a Chinatown. Right. Gas station fish tacos. All I’m gonna say, oh, Steve, don’t you remember?

Uh, was it, uh, Lee Dumb Kim’s or whatever? Yeah. You guys, 5 99, uh, Chinese. All you can eat Buffet in the middle of San Francisco. Chinatown.

Crew Chief Eric: Brad knows all about House of Hongs. Yeah. That being said, that Corvette is a hot mess. I mean, it looks like something outta Mad Max. He’s driving like a [00:55:00] mental patient.

Steve & Izzy: It’s the car from Corvette Summer, but driven by Dennis Hopper for six months. Yeah, right. Like the hoods popped off. All the sides are danging. He crashed, but he is like emotionally attached to it, so like he turned it from a burning ball of fire back into that.

Crew Chief Eric: It’s like a franking vet now. I think that’s what we’re supposed to get from that whole thing is that that car is resurrected from the ashes type deal

Steve & Izzy: and that’s why he was resurrected, which is.

Why at the end of this spoilers, neither of them will be able to be resurrected. Is the picture of Dorian Gray, they were connected the whole time. Uhhuh? Yeah. ’cause cattle, uh, during the race, he like spins out a little bit, gets back into it and Steve sees that turn coming up, still has the burn marks that smells like buddy buddy burnt hair.

Steve body hasn’t even cooled down enough for the coroner. Haul it all. Yeah, right. The coroner’s still putting them in the back, but then you hear him say, I don’t want this anymore. Cal, it’s all yours. Yeah, his drive along Cal, he speeds past right into a fucking construction site and spins out and off the cliff [00:56:00] and boom, silver dream racer motherfuckers.

He’s dead at the end. And I believe this is what I turned to Steve, who was like, wait, what? What happened? Huh? Who is that?

Crew Chief Eric: That’s Cal.

Steve & Izzy: So much is happening right now in a movie where nothing has happened.

Crew Chief Eric: That’s his footprint, man. Right.

Mountain Man Dan: I’ll give this racing some credit to where they’re actually like drifting that Corvette somewhere around the turns and everything and you can see it

Steve & Izzy: because it’s in the morning light and stuff.

It’s not at night and you’re just seeing headlights. Spurring all over the fucking screen.

Crew Chief Eric: A thousand percent. And I agree with you, that’s why I said the previous driving sequence was the worst in the movie by far. This one was better, it was more entertaining. It wasn’t great because every once in a while you would catch a glimpse of the dashboard.

Especially in the Porsche, they’re doing 30 miles an hour. Like the gauge is literally reading 30. You’re just like, wow. This is pathetic. Yeah. He was running

Mountain Man Dan: it up to the red line at the 30 mile an hour

Steve & Izzy: in first gear. Yeah. That’s why they did the erratic camera shots. ’cause you watch ’em doing Mulholland Drive, they’re really doing, yeah, like 20, 25 miles an hour on [00:57:00] those turns and stuff.

And you know, it’s like a shutdown road on, you know how you see like professional drivers like you do in commercials, you by professional drivers. It’s like, no, this is just, we’ll fix it in post. So yeah, Cal’s exploded. Steve walks up there, the turn and there’s cal’s little, uh, stopwatch or whatever, picks it up, blocks off.

Roll credits guys. That’s King of the mountain. No, but wait, they play

Crew Chief Eric: Dangerous Strangers after he clicks the stop. Oh yeah, they play

Steve & Izzy: the full song again. Yes, they

Crew Chief Eric: do.

Steve & Izzy: Let’s Be Dangerous Strangers.

Crew Chief Eric: So was the song a metaphor too? Were they dangerous strangers, Cal and Steve? No. They were no

Steve & Izzy: Their love, no each other for years, man.

They had to erase their emotions and they were only dangerous to themselves. And others on the road

Crew Chief Eric: and everybody in their crew. I love the pause there. They were only

Steve & Izzy: dangerous to themselves, themselves and others. It’s a metaphor. Anyway, Tanya, would you recommend this movie again? I mean,

Crew Chief Eric: she [00:58:00] already did.

She recommended it to us Fools.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah, exactly.

Executive Producer Tania: I’ve never seen it. How can I recommend it if I’ve never seen it? I suggested it.

Steve & Izzy: We gotta blame somebody, Tony.

Executive Producer Tania: Somebody’s going down for this and it ain’t gonna be me. That’s right. I mean, is this the worst on the ranking totem? Is this at the bottom? This is not the worst

Crew Chief Eric: movie we

Steve & Izzy: have done in this here.

Collaboration. I will say that exactly.

Crew Chief Eric: I’m right there with you because I’m gonna admit I do not even come close to holding Dan’s record of watching Trading Paint nine times. I did watch this twice because I wanted to refresh my memory after two weeks abroad, and so it was re watchable the last chase.

It’s re watchable every 20 years. If we’re gonna compare movies like that. The stuntman, I don’t know that I could rewatch that movie. You know what I mean? No. That movie’s great. You

Steve & Izzy: are complaining about the

Crew Chief Eric: stuntman. It’s up there with the fall guy. Fall guy. Yes. I could rewatch the fall guy. This is definitely rewatch, watchable.

I did pick up a little bit more the second time [00:59:00] I watched it. Just because airports and you’re bored and you just kind of plowed through it.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. He picked up on more of the, uh, romance or romances as it were this time around.

Crew Chief Eric: I have you to thank for

Steve & Izzy: that. I could definitely see it now. So does Steve go back to his fiance at the end?

Yeah, he goes back to work. He’s gonna run off with the rich record producer, duh. Oh yeah. There we go. Two completed this game. Tina The Wonder Kid, right? No. Buddy’s the songwriter. He’s gonna steal all the buddy songs. Oh yeah. Shit. He’s got all of his notes at home and he is like, yeah, yeah, I could play.

It’s on the piano. Uh, shake your ass. Watch yourself shake ass. Show me what you’re working with.

Crew Chief Eric: So let’s see what Brad thinks. Brad, would you recommend this movie? What did you think?

Crew Chief Brad: Uh, no I wouldn’t. No.

Crew Chief Eric: What

Crew Chief Brad: it, it’s not the worst, like you’re saying. It is not the worst movie we’ve done. I think the Stunt man takes the cake for that one.

You

Steve & Izzy: guys did not like the stunt man. No, they didn’t. That is baffling. Senior moment. Have you guys forgot against All Odds? Yeah. And you guys shit [01:00:00] on the Stunt man.

Crew Chief Brad: What was the one with, what was it? John Travolta Trading.

Steve & Izzy: Pain Trading. Pain Trading. Okay. That, I think that’s our one out of 10. Yeah, it’s a toss up.

Yeah. No, the

Crew Chief Eric: Lamborghini movie was really bad. Oh

Steve & Izzy: yeah. Shit. I

Executive Producer Tania: think we watched a lot of bad movies with you guys. So is it with us or are there just a lot of bad car movies? I mean, yes. Here’s the thing. Steve and I have seen a lot

Steve & Izzy: of bad movies, and I will put it this way. The worst car movie that we have seen is like a five on the bad movie radar because at least it has cars.

There are movies that are that bad with no cars.

Crew Chief Eric: I would lump this in with Corvette Summer and some of those other movies where you can watch this on a weekend when you got nothing else going on. Put it on in the background. And it’s not terrible, but it’s not good either.

Steve & Izzy: Look, it’s no gone in 30 seconds.

I’m just gonna say that.

Crew Chief Eric: Gone in 30 seconds.

Steve & Izzy: That the web short version, it’s the prequel to gone in 60 seconds. It’s the What about shoplifting?

Crew Chief Brad: My, my, my attention span was gone in 30 seconds.

Crew Chief Eric: [01:01:00] Yeah, it was that Rockford files thing. So Dan, what do you do? Would you recommend it?

Crew Chief Brad: Dan recommends all the movies.

Mountain Man Dan: I’m with you on this, Eric, for the fact it’s, I don’t hate it, but I don’t love it. It’s kind of middle tier for me where I agree you could put it on in the background. I didn’t hate it. It’s just certain things about it made me cringe though. ’cause like you were saying, some of the inside shots where it showed they were doing 30 mile an hour, did you also pick up on the fact that it had the tack in the dash and then the tack mounted on the dashes?

Yeah. Yeah. Attacks everywhere, man. Like

Steve & Izzy: why do you need two tacks? I thought they were like different cars too, but it’s like, oh no, no. Yeah, this is the same one. You can see ’em like in the same shot a couple of times.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. Did you guys notice, Dan and I have come to an agreement for the first time on a movie review.

Steve & Izzy: What? What? Mark it down.

Crew Chief Eric: Alright, how about

Steve & Izzy: you, Izzy? What do you think about this movie? A hundred percent. It’s not the worst movie we’ve seen. Mm-hmm. But there’s so many better car movies you guys, a thousand percent. Since you guys like this movie so much, would you consider watching Silver Dream Race or knowing it’s the exact same movie, but with

Crew Chief Brad: Ooh, motorcycles?

No, no,

Steve & Izzy: no. My Curiosity has the best me, so I’m [01:02:00] gonna watch it. Just watch the last three minutes. It’s the only part worth watching. Just watch this movie. And then about the time Cal’s about to crash, switch over to Silver Dream Racer.

Crew Chief Brad: We still need to do Biker Boys

Crew Chief Eric: since you opened the door for suggesting movies for next time.

Oh boy. Wait. We’re not done with this one, but go ahead. Yeah, they’re talking about Biker Boys and Silver Dream Racer.

Crew Chief Brad: Torque.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. Torque Baby. No, no. Oh, torque. I’m gonna take it to the far other extreme. We’re gonna go to the Land of the Rising. Son, let’s do Thunderbolt with Jackie Chan.

Steve & Izzy: Oh, you guys don’t wanna do Thunderbolt.

Crew Chief Eric: That’s right. The

Steve & Izzy: very first, the original Fast and Furious. Oh,

Crew Chief Eric: the black and white

Steve & Izzy: one. 1950. Yeah. The Roger Forman

Crew Chief Eric: one. Yeah. Yeah, I have that. Yeah, we could do that too. Thunderbolt. Just think. There’s no dialogue that we could understand. So the reviews could be really short.

Steve & Izzy: This would not be the first time Steve and I reviewed a movie that was in Japanese language and there were no subtitles and we did not know there was a dub available.

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They get better every week. Ah, babe. I think I’m just gonna have another, uh, Sockeye. Dagger Falls. How much? Yeah, I think I’m just gonna go for that. All right. I’m my top. Oh, he’s top. Oh, sorry. Oh, so hop up for H. He’s just covering my top with his now he’s sucking the head. What did we suck buddy? Alright.

Yeah. Not a bad beer. You been on. Number two, my dad choking on his drink, which appears to be in a Mountain Dew. Yes. Say a Mountain Dew Cup. He says it’s water, but it’s the beast, the beast mode. So it’s Mountain Dew and Monster Energy drink. Got it. It was just a shot of Jack From the box.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. From the dashboard of a

Steve & Izzy: citro in.[01:05:00]

Yeah. So would uh, any of you be interested in any fun facts about this movie? Absolutely. Only if there fun facts. Super fun facts ’cause fun, fun facts. Steve has driven a citron, by the way. Which one? Uh, the Citri lingo. The, the fucking van or whatever. Oh, the van. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Crew Chief Eric: Those

Steve & Izzy: are still, that thing gets like 70

Executive Producer Tania: miles to the gallon though.

It’s fucking amazing.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. We rented one as a camper fan when we were in Iceland.

Executive Producer Tania: I just had a Citron as a rental.

Steve & Izzy: Yes. Which one? The

Executive Producer Tania: Air Cross.

Crew Chief Eric: Spectacular. It was terrible. Meanwhile, fun facts. Super fun facts. What do you got

Steve & Izzy: for us, Steve? Alright. Rotten tomatoes, no critic reviews. What? Any guesses on what that audience score is though?

Executive Producer Tania: Yes, because I saw it as soon as Fandango opened in my face. Yeah.

Steve & Izzy: Damia.

Crew Chief Eric: Fandango, I have to abstain. You

Executive Producer Tania: can’t not see it.

Mountain Man Dan: Yeah, I did not see it. So I will guess 47. I’m gonna guess 35.

Steve & Izzy: Uh, I’m gonna go with my super generous 17%. Oh God. Well Matt Manang was right on at 47%. God damn.

Crew Chief Brad: Says the guy who said he didn’t see it.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah, [01:06:00] right. I totally didn’t see it. Probably 47. Not looking at it right now. You’re just pulling it outta my ass.

Mountain Man Dan: 47.

Steve & Izzy: I’m office

Mountain Man Dan: can be on these all the time, so

Crew Chief Eric: you gotta win one every We agreed on something Dan. Yeah, it’s a red letter day. Take him to Vegas, put it all on black.

Steve & Izzy: Yep. $2 million budget. I’m just gonna guess.

1.8 US gross. Not a big movie, I don’t think. Uh, 1.8 million worldwide. Wait, so you’re telling me they spent 2 million bucks to make this movie?

Executive Producer Tania: Well, those cars probably half a million in the cars.

Steve & Izzy: Dennis Hopper, man, that’s a lot of Coke.

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah. Dennis Hopper got 1.5

Steve & Izzy: and you know, uh, Elvira, that’s where the money went.

Oh, yeah, there you go. And the film is based on an article in Titered Thunder Road by David Berry and published in New West Magazine on July 31st, 1978. The piece told that the Mulholland Racing Association organization whose membership were youths, who raced cars across 23 mile stretch of Mulholland Drive in Las Vegas Hills.

The movie also has been attributed to an article by David Berry that was published [01:07:00] in the LA Times.

Executive Producer Tania: Okay. Is that all you’re gonna say about that? That’s

Steve & Izzy: all I got about that. Go on.

Executive Producer Tania: Okay. So the reality is, so that article, it’s based off a man named Chris Banning, who is the king of the mountain. And he built a purpose-built nine 11 RSR, specifically to race on Mulholland.

It’s known as the nine 11 Mulholland. He went to Germany, they gave him specs and data to build this car. This car was in the Peterson Museum. He still owns the car, I believe, but like he did things like slant the windshield to make it more aerodynamic, all the suspension, all this stuff. He’s like a builder on top of everything.

Crew Chief Eric: Oh wow.

Executive Producer Tania: So it’s loosely based off him. And apparently the impetus for him to build this RSR out of a regular, like RS nine 11 was, he was racing on there and some dude in some like Chevy pickup truck rolled up and he had a hard time getting around him.

Steve & Izzy: That was Cal baby.

Executive Producer Tania: He’s like, I gotta build something here.

And then he went and he built this monster. Nine 11.

Crew Chief Eric: Alright. [01:08:00] Applause for bringing the super funnest car. Fun fact to any crossover episode ever. Mad props to Tanya. That was very well done. Excellent, excellent research there.

Mountain Man Dan: He had to completely customize the car to be the pickup. That’s all I’m saying.

Yeah. A pickup.

Executive Producer Tania: No, I think, I believe he got around them. ’cause there’s an interview you can watch. They’ve got posted on the Peterson Automotive Museum. So it’s a really short video of him talking. He’s sitting in front of the car and he is talking about it and he talks about that moment. I have to go watch it again.

I think he got around him, but then he was like, because Mulholland is really rough and bumpy. Yeah. Which the regular nine 11 is not designed for it. So he’d completely tune the car to drive on Mulholland and like that’s it. And the car is known as the nine 11 Mulholland.

Steve & Izzy: It’s known as nine

Crew Chief Eric: 11. Yes. Yeah.

Very cool.

Executive Producer Tania: Never forget,

Crew Chief Eric: you know what, I’ve been slick. Maybe we need to go back and watch it again. Nobody’s gonna do this. Is at the Porsche shop is to see if the car happens to be in the background. Because if you think [01:09:00] about it, it’s a 76 9 11. This RSR Mulholland, the movie was in 80. There’s a high probability, it might be a cameo in the background because I wanted to go, but I didn’t have time to research the nine 11 that that old guy was pushing, which was RSR Motorsports.

It was a nine 11 race car belonged to somebody’s team.

Mountain Man Dan: They show a 74 9 11 Carrera, RSR, but the one being pushed in was a 1979. 14.

Crew Chief Eric: Well, there you go. But anyway, it’d be cool to see if this car was in the background somewhere. Never know. There you go.

Steve & Izzy: And uh, Harry Hamlin the star of our movie. He replaced Brad Davis.

I’m the lead role of Steve, but Davis was allegedly fired due to his alleged drug problems because this movie didn’t have enough of those. He would’ve fit right in. Yeah, right. And you guys might be asking, who the fuck is Brad Davis? ’cause I had to look it up. He was old Georgian Roots. Oh, chariots of Fire, midnight Express.

That’s about all I got. I didn’t really recognize him for anything else. The make and model of the car that Steve Drives is supposedly supposed to be a silver 58 Porsche 3 56. Sports or [01:10:00] convertible, but in fact was a replica. Oh

Crew Chief Eric: yeah. That was an Outlaw 3 56. Yeah. I mean it, it might be a Beetle, but there was a company out in California that was building three 50 sixes like that.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. Apparently it was a Volkswagen Beetle convertible. Oh,

Crew Chief Eric: interesting.

Steve & Izzy: And uh, the last one I got guys, this was the comeback movie for Dennis Hopper who had been filming in Europe for years because he was banned from Australia and America apparently wouldn’t insure him for a while. I don’t know what.

Yeah. Apparently this list as his comeback movie to the Americas. Oh. But now we’ve reached the most important part.

Crew Chief Eric: Hmm.

Steve & Izzy: What did we learn from king of the. Tanya as Queen of the Mountain. Would you like to go first?

Executive Producer Tania: Well, I think I shared what I learned ’cause I went into a deep dive and found out there was actually a loose thread to a real life story.

Yeah,

Steve & Izzy: well done, well played. And that way. Still better than Fast and Furious based on an article. Was it Racer X by some guy that was in some magazine and now we’re [01:11:00] 12 movies deep. Brett, how about you?

Crew Chief Brad: I learned that there is no king of the mountain. The mountain cannot be beaten. Ooh,

Steve & Izzy: very prophetic mountain is undefeated.

Yes,

Crew Chief Brad: the house always wins. The mountain always wins.

Crew Chief Eric: Speed is time and time to speed.

Steve & Izzy: Your car’s like a runaway knife, man. How about you Mount Man, Dan,

Mountain Man Dan: not Mount Mike. I’m just gonna say like, Tanya’s little tidbits of information were great and I just like the fact that car had to be custom made to get around to That’s, that’s a great thing.

You’re gonna, you’re

Crew Chief Eric: gonna hold that over my head. Oh my God. Couldn’t get that Porsche around that Chevy. I can hear it now. The next barbecue, that’s all we’re gonna be talking about.

Crew Chief Brad: They don’t tell you that it was Nicki Lauda driving the The pickup.

Crew Chief Eric: Oh, that makes a difference, right? Yeah. Stunt driver ton Sena behind the wheel of the Chevy.

I winning. How about you Eric? So I learned a couple things. I mean mad props to Tanya. I didn’t go down that rabbit [01:12:00] hole. I was loving the whole 3 56 outlaw thing. Jackie from too close for comfort, Debra VanValkenberg, whatever, so she can sing. And I thought that was cool. I actually thought she had a pretty voice and the song aside, I think she did really well.

But for me, going back again to a car related, what did I learn? I learned that you can stack mount two oil coolers in the space of the rear grill on a 3 56 slash beetle. Did anybody else notice that? That was not a wing. Those were two oil coolers on the back of the car. So I learned you could get away with that.

Super safe. There you go. How about you, babe?

Steve & Izzy: I learned that fiances are just like. A construct man, and they’ll disappear at anytime. And really, the love between a man and a woman is nothing compared to the love between two men and a sandwich.

Mountain Man Dan: That was a heated scene. That was a heated scene.

Steve & Izzy: That was the most emotion we got out of anybody in this whole movie, of all the scenes. I was waiting for that porn music to started up.[01:13:00]

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah. I I don’t think there was a better subway commercial than that.

Steve & Izzy: Jared

Crew Chief Eric: had nothing

Steve & Izzy: on that.

Crew Chief Brad: You

Steve & Izzy: got any other foot lungs? Is that what Jared looked

Crew Chief Eric: like in the eighties?

Steve & Izzy: That’s a heard salami. Uh, see, I learned you gotta ride the edge if you wanna win

Executive Producer Tania: the edge of the sandwich.

Steve & Izzy: Yeah. At the edge of the sandwich.

Yeah.

Executive Producer Tania: Gotta be fast as shit.

Steve & Izzy: And you didn’t sell ’em out, you bought yourself in. See, you’re gonna wear that as a shirt. Yeah, right. I didn’t sell you out. I bought myself in.

Crew Chief Eric: That would make a great t-shirt. It’s just a picture of a dude with no face and a perm and instead of his face it says those words. It would be fantastic.

I would wear that. Dude.

Steve & Izzy: So many people you have me sold at no face in a perm. Well guys, thank you so much for joining us here on everything I learned from movies. I understand you also have a podcast, is that correct? We do. We have

Crew Chief Eric: an entire network of podcasts. What with shows like Screen to Speed, the Ferrari Marketplace, the Motoring [01:14:00] Historian, the Drive Through Break Fix, and many, many others.

Check us out@motoringpodcast.net or follow us on social media at Motoring Podcast Network

Steve & Izzy: on our podcast. Maybe you’ve heard of it. We’re still going through the year of the apocalypse. We are taking a little sidestep though for Nick August Cage and we’ve already done a lot of his Apocalypse movies, so we do stuff like it could happen to you Astro Boy.

We’ve done a lot of his movies already. We’re hitting the bottom of the barrel now, but. Starting in September, we get back in the post-apocalyptic movies like Roller Ball and Blood of the Heroes, and we’re gonna throw in some random Italian stuff. So come check it out. And Thunderbolt, don’t forget Thunderbolt.

Oh yeah. And Thunderbolt coming soon. Thunderbolt. Yeah. The Shirley Bassey sing the song on that one. That’d be great. He is that man who can drive really fast. How about you, babe? Oh, you can find me everywhere at Untidy Venus. It’s a goddess Who’s better? Housekeeping. I’m on all the social medias at Untidy Venus.

You can catch me at events all over the state of Utah constantly. Can’t stop. Won’t stop, [01:15:00] Steve. Mm-hmm. Where can we find you? Oh, you find me everywhere on all the major pod catchers and everything I learned from movies. We’re gonna up directly on Twitter, Facebook, Patreon, and bluesky at EILF movies.

That’s everything I learned from movies, cars, like a runaway knife. All right, so I tell next time I’m Steve and obviously these guys aren’t James Bond fans and uh, and we got Eric and Tanya and Brad and Mount man Dan. And this is everything I learned from movie.

Song: Don’t afraid.[01:16:00]

Crew Chief Eric: It’s his footprint, man.

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Skip ahead if you must… Here’s the highlights from this episode you might be most interested in and their corresponding time stamps.

• 00:00 Dramatic Intro and Movie Setup
• 02:05 First Impressions of ‘King of the Mountain’
• 08:17 Cast and Crew Breakdown
• 15:05 Plot Analysis and Key Scenes
• 21:20 Character Dynamics and Relationships
• 36:18 Night Racing
• 36:48 Cal’s Drama & Roger’s Music Deal
• 37:57 Hollywood Bowl Shenanigans
• 38:18 Drunken Night and The Sexy Neighbor
• 43:19 Record Exec’s Party
• 45:53 The Final Race
• 53:45 Movie Review and Fun Facts

Steve and Izzy watch bad movies, drink good beer, funny third thing. Cheers! Learn more about them by catching their podcast “Everything I Learned from Movies (EILFM)” on all your favorite podcast apps. Or follow them on social @eilfmovies. Look forward to more quarterly crossovers with this dynamic duo and the GTM team! 

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